On Wed, October 29, 2014 6:32 pm, Cliff Pratt wrote:
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Valeri Galtsev galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote:
On Wed, October 29, 2014 4:02 pm, Beartooth wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:44:42 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
... Basically, if one thinks he knows more than system vendor, he is just schizophrenic. And we, normal people, do give schizophrenics a privilege to be on their own. As we, normal people know that if the distro maintainers had to update
kernel,
they had a reason (otherwise, something else breaks). So, we are left running _this_ system, even though it's stressful, still not as stressful as running "bleeding edge" fedora, right? ;-)
What? Stressful?? Fedora??? Naaahhh ...I'm sorry, apart from my laptop, I also run servers. And services are supposed to be up 24/7. And a bunch of people are always logged in... You do the math.
This is a corner that system administrators have allowed themselves to be
painted into. It's not a law of nature. Civilized organisations will always allow a maintenance Window. In the Windows world it is not an issue. Servers can be rebooted with much more freedom than in the Linux/Unix world.
Yes, indeed. Those are blasted Unix sysadmins (Hm, I flatter myself by thinking of being one too) that push themselves into being too responsible to their users... No, I don't think Unix admins will start into the direction of Windows world, sorry. I don't even like Windows world mentioned as an example for Unix world! (Don't take me too literally, everybody welcomes good things "other worlds" have...)
Valeri
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++