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From: R P Herrold herrold@centos.org To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 8:51:35 PM Subject: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Bogdan Nicolescu wrote:
BUT... when someone from the Centos team makes a statement like "...latest release has many up-to-date desktop packages..."
ummm -- it is of course true that changes happen; rebasings do as well; and the CentOS project [and the upstream] document these matters in release notes as to the up-to-date changes done. Upstream decided on most of them, or we made a minimal delta to get the packageset to stabilize. So what? The project cannot cater to people who won't read nor pay attention.
Russ, this was about a comment about "up-to-date desktop packages", not a comment about "up-to-date changes". Just because the release notes contains "up-to-date changes", it doesn't necessarily mean that the "up-to-date xxx package" is installed. But maybe I wrong, please point to one current "up-to-date package" in Centos or RH for that matter. And by up-to-date package I don't mean a stable, but un-supported package (ie PHP)
I think a lot of users will start looking for alternatives.
'a lot?' ... we disagree
Are you disagreeing with the number (a lot) of users who use Centos because they need/want an RH clone, or/and are you disagreeing with the number (a lot) of users who would leave Centos if Centos breaks RH compatibility?
It should be easy to find out. Conduct a poll.
That said: Choice is good -- keeping an eye on options is good. So what?
Choice is good and somtimes overrated, but stability is always better.
Straining at gnats and worrying about scope creep by CentOS in 'base' and 'updates' is a wasted effort, so long as one remains in those archives. As I said before, 'no-one forces you to use any third party repository'
Thank you, and all the other Centos members for clarifying this... "Yes, CentOS is often considered a server operating system," explained Dag, "but we are trying to change that. In fact, the latest release has many up-to-date desktop packages and we also have an extra repository with many application and drivers that are not officially part of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL)."
And keep up the good work.
bn