On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Scott Robbins scottro@nyc.rr.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 10:27:41AM -0400, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Scott Robbins wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 02:09:49PM +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
Very true. I do remember Adam Williamson of Fedora commenting on their forums that he pictured many of the complainers about various changes, including systemd, to be old white guys, which fit me to a T.
<snip> So he's guilty of ageism, as well as aggressively NIH (Not Invented
Here),
and a faddist.... Did he actually have any *good*, persuasive reasons for such changes?
Wow. This was my bad in assuming everyone knows who Adam is--a very good natured and helpful person. He was formerly with Mandriva, I think, and came to Fedora where he has made enormous strides in seeing things from the user standpoint, getting bugs filed, making Fedora a much better distribution (and better documented), than it had been. My statement's implication, though of course, tongue in cheek, was that Even Adam thinks....
So, for any friends or fans of Adam on this list, I apologize if that came out as a putdown or anything more than a jesting complaint.
Yeah, tongue in cheek. Uh huh. Sure.
"Disadvantages: people who dislike change are going to hate this one. Note to people who dislike change: you could still remove NetworkManager post-install if you really hate it. Having it in core doesn't preclude that. You could also still exclude it with a kickstart. Makes the minimal install somewhat larger." - Adam Williamson ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693602#c31)