Craig White wrote:
On Feb 4, 2013, at 1:40 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
use RPM packages, Google 'enterprise ruby' and install it (it's Ruby 1.8.7) It's not likely to get any more updates though. If you get off the
Sorry, can't do that. As I believe I mentioned, they formerly required the 1.8.7 enterprise version, not the packaged version.
enterprise ruby - clearly the best version of ruby 1.8.7 available anywhere and is available in RPM form.
Except we had it installed not from rpm.
need to have RPM packages, both rbenv & rvm install an alternate that downloads ruby source and compiles it for you and gives you sufficient shell modifications to make it appear somewhat seamless (I'm not promising the world here but it's not that difficult and my work has some CentOS 5.x still running enterprise-ruby-1.8.7 and everything newer has been Ubuntu 10.04 and either uses enterprise-ruby for 1.8.7 (becoming rare these days) and all new setups are rbenv and ruby
1.9.3-pXXX
Could you tell me what other, widely-used languages that don't have their most recent stable versions in packages for the most-used
distros? I'm
not aware of any.
Why is it that they don't package it?
shouldn't you be asking this of upstream? They're the ones who choose which versions to include.
No. If I cared enough, I'd ask on the RUBY list. It's ruby.org that appears to ignore CentOS and all other RH-derived distros.
Btw, you might notice we're on the CentOS, not ubuntu, or some other distro list.
I see, with a little googling, that it seems to be mostly ruby promoters arguing it can scale, and a lot of everyone else being aware of issues. And *I* have issues with it - it reminds me of python, 10-12 years ago, when each subrelease would break code that was working fine. IIRC, when I went to get a newer python required by one package I wanted to use, it broke yum on RH 7.3 or 9, something like that, and ruby seems to be like that.
AND I can't just rsync our internal repo with the latest volume, it looks like I'll have to build it separately on each machine - I mean,
if it
needs compiling....
rbenv and rvm have wonderful mechanisms for downloading & building ruby and even allow you multiple versions on the same computer running at the same time. The simplification of the process is quite complete.
I notice that you are ignoring my issues, and go on about how wonderful the unique ruby package manager is, and say nothing of installing on a number of machines at once.
Of course you wouldn't understand these things because you made up your mind a long time ago.
I've only slowly made up my mind, but the more I have to deal with ruby, as I said, the less I like it.
You, on the other hand, have already come here with the attitude of "my way or the highway"; this is *NOT* the way to encourage folks to change their minds.* Nor is it helpful to me.
mark
* "You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar"