Robert Nichols wrote:
On 02/15/2017 07:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 02/15/2017 07:34 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote:
Too much temptation to resist, I don't know which one of us is older but I have a feeling it's a "horse race". Like you, I still have a land line, WiFi is too slow and "WiFi security" seems to be an oxymoronic phrase. Why people text (or IM for that matter) anything other than a one-liner is beyond me.
Now for the real issue, what happens when Network Manager (Systemd, journald, etc.) breaks? Who is going to fix it? Hiding the complexity in software effectively dumbs us down leaving us helpless when problems surface. Anyone who has worked with Microsoft understands - give me the command prompt any day rather than layers of GUI hiding those possibly cryptic but also possibly useful messages.
The people who are going to fix it are people who have RHCE certs and/or computer science degrees who work for the companies running Linux.
Thank you for agreeing that systemd is not suitable for use outside of an organization that employs such people.
'Fraid I have a lot of sympathy with Robert. When something here breaks, we - me, the other admin, and our manager - are the ones who have to figure it out asap. We do have a few RH licenses... but even so, even if we *were* paying for a 4-hr response, that's not soon enough....
mark "I have enough problems with user teams that have *multiple* levels of symlinks...."