On 07/08/2014 08:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 06:50:21PM -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
On Jul 7, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Scott Robbinsscottro@nyc.rr.com wrote:
No systemd in FreeBSD. It isn't Linux, and like any O/S, has its own oddities.
It would take more adjustment, IMHO, to go from CentOS 6.x to FreeBSD than to go to 7.x. (I'm saying this as someone who uses both FreeBSD and Fedora which has given a hint of what we'll see in CentOS 7.)
That's a good point. Systemd may be the "abomination of desolation" that causes me to finally start moving to a BSD variant. Or at least start looking at one.
Y'know, I was considered a troll when I said on Fedora forums that systemd going into server systems might start driving people away from RH to the BSDs. (And to be honest, I was being trollish there, in a friendly way--in the same way at work I'll say something about Arch loudly enough for our Arch lover to hear.)
Now that it's insinuated itself in the RHEL system, I do wonder if it is going to start driving people away. In many ways, IMHO, RH has become the Windows of Linux, with no serious competitors, at least here in the US. Sure, some companies use something else, but when I had to job hunt last year, 90-95 percent of the Linux admin jobs were for RedHat/CentOS/OEL/SL admins.
That presumes that your conservative attitude is the majority opinion though. Systemd is one of the features that I have been looking forward to in CentOS 7 because of the new capabilities it provides so while this will surely drive some people away it will actually attract others and if you think that this will lead to some sort of great exodus then I think you are mistaken. Not everybody is this uncomfortable with change.
Regards, Dennis
My concern it that it is a massive change with a large footprint. How secure is it really? It has arguably become the second kernel it touches and handles so many things.
Maybe on desktops it makes sense - but I fail to see any positives for servers that once started run for months at a time between reboots.