Les Mikesell wrote:
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ned Slider ned@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
Mark - as a general word of advise, next time you have an issue, rather than ranting because something isn't working as you expect and calling people stupid, perhaps you could try describing the problem you are experiencing in a rational manor and provide supporting information. It seems you had already decided it was someone else's fault and were more interested in blaming others than examining your own issues.
This is a generic issue that deserves at least some ranting, although not particularly at you. As long as the distro requires the use of a repository that by policy excludes things that almost everyone needs we are pretty much forced to use 3rd party repositories that almost by definition are uncoordinated in a way that makes their interaction unpredictable and any defensive configuration measures likely to fail. I don't see any possibility of changing this, so what else is there to do but rant?
I responded to Ned in the way I suggested to him - offlist.
And as the o/p, let me note to everyone else the following points: a) I called it a *moderate* rant - I wasn't spitting, screaming in ALL CAPS, or calling names (except, by implication, the other admin I work with who did this to me). b) when people started making suggestions pointing me in the correct direction, I neither i) got huffy and deny it was on my end; ii) did not continue to scream and yell, but investigated as time allowed here at work, and iii) when I found the problem, worked to check the fix, and thanked the folks who'd helped.
And I'm *sure* none of you have *ever* had something happened, and gotten pissed, and screamed all over.....
mark "is that the Tooth Fairy I see?" deny