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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (H. Peter Anvin)
2. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (H. Peter Anvin)
3. New Mirror (Bill Glick)
4. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
(Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom)
5. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (Olivier Thauvin)
6. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (Brian Elliott Finley)
7. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (Brian Elliott Finley)
8. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (Lars Strand)
9. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (Johnny Hughes)
10. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
(Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom)
11. Re: Syncing of CentOS 5 to mirrors. (Guido Nickels)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:30:09 -0700
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <
centos-mirror@centos.org>
Message-ID: <4624F611.2040907@zytor.com>
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Lance Davis wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, J.H. wrote:
>
>> Kernel.org would is completely willing.
>>
>> However would it not make more sense to just set up a second rsync
>> target and explicitly exclude *DVD* or something akin to that so that
>> those not wanting the DVD's got everything BUT the dvd isos? That might
>> be a lot quicker and simpler than doing a hard linked set of trees.
>
> Yes, that is fine. We hardlink the trees for other reasons (although
> they escape me at the moment :)
>
Both are pretty ridiculous, quite frankly.
Settle on a standard --exclude pattern, and you don't need two trees of
any sort.
Currently, I believe --exclude *-DVD.iso should work, but --exclude
*-DVD*.iso might be a better (future-proof) pattern.
One can easily export two different rsync modules with and without DVD
images, if that's at all desirable, simply by putting the exclude
pattern in rsyncd.conf.
-hpa
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:32:12 -0700
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <
centos-mirror@centos.org>
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J.H. wrote:
>
> Basically
>
>> But what would be the difference ?? - ok I guess they are more specific
>> as to what you are going to get, and you may be able to give a different
>> bandwidth path ??
>
> The difference being, when releases happen the public doesn't see what's
> being released, where as the mirrors need to be able to see it. I.E.
>
> rw------- <user> <group> centos/5.0
>
> Would still be invisible during mirror propagation (rsync user is set as
> a generic user without permission to access the folder) while the
> mirrors connecting would be able to. That is the main difference,
> otherwise 99% of the time the two would return the same data. Also
> means that I can have two separate pools of connections say 10 - 20
> slots for mirrors and say a hundred for normal downloading which gives a
> mirror a MUCH better chance of getting into and downloading things vs.
> the general public.
>
FWIW, please use drwxr-x--- as the mode for "bit not yet flipped";
otherwise rsync has to run as the mirroring user to allow access for
mirrors.
-hpa
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:45:46 -0500
From: Bill Glick <wglick@ncsa.uiuc.edu
>
Subject: [CentOS-mirror] New Mirror
To: centos-mirror@centos.org
Message-ID: <4624F9BA.4040303@ncsa.uiuc.edu
>
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HTTP: http://mirror.ncsa.uiuc.edu/centos/
FTP: No
Rsync: No
Sync times: 3x per day
Releases: ALL
ISOs: Yes
Location: Urbana, IL, US
Bandwidth: 760Mb/s (currently limited to 100Mb/s)
Sponsoring Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications
URL:
http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
Contact Email: mirror@ncsa.uiuc.edu
I'm concerned that some of the images in the HEADER.images folder aren't
rsyncing. Any idea why that's happening?
--
Bill Glick
System Engineer, Production Services Infrastructure
NCSA - University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:56:19 +0100
From: Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom <nuno.vieira@nfsi.pt>
Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <
centos-mirror@centos.org>
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Hello Lance,
Can you please clarify how can i sync the dvd's from ?
I am trying to use eu-msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd and
msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd without any success.
regards,
--nvieira
On Apr 17, 2007, at 3:08 AM, Lance Davis wrote:
> ::CentOS-sync-incdvd
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:34:03 +0200
From: Olivier Thauvin <nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <
centos-mirror@centos.org>
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Le Monday 16 April 2007, Olivier Thauvin a écrit:
> Le Sunday 15 April 2007, Lance Davis a écrit:
> My server (distrib-coffee) can host and share via ftp/http/rsync DVD iso,
> it already does it for mandriva (and it is running a mandriva 2007 64bits).
distrib-coffee has now all DVD iso sync from Tier1 mirrors.
Regards.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:32:19 -0500
From: Brian Elliott Finley <finley@anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror@centos.org>
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>
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I agree with hpa on the --exclude pattern bit.
-Brian
Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom wrote:
> Hello Lance,
>
> Can you please clarify how can i sync the dvd's from ?
>
> I am trying to use eu-msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd and
> msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd without any success.
>
> regards,
> --nvieira
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2007, at 3:08 AM, Lance Davis wrote:
>
>> ::CentOS-sync-incdvd
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:37:07 -0500
From: Brian Elliott Finley <finley@anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror@centos.org>
Message-ID: <46259263.1070502@anl.gov
>
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I'll second nvieira's question -- after all this discussion, what is the
proper URI for syncing, including the DVD ISOs? We're currently syncing
everything else just fine.
If you need IPs for acls, please use these:
146.137.96.12
146.137.96.64
Either machine might do the syncing, but only one is configured as the
active sync machine on any given day.
-Brian
Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom wrote:
> Hello Lance,
>
> Can you please clarify how can i sync the dvd's from ?
>
> I am trying to use
eu-msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd and
> msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd without any success.
>
> regards,
> --nvieira
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2007, at 3:08 AM, Lance Davis wrote:
>
>> ::CentOS-sync-incdvd
>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:05:26 +0200
From: Lars Strand <larstra@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror@centos.org>
Message-ID: <20070418070526.GA14887@gnist.org
>
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On tir, 17 apr 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>
> Both are pretty ridiculous, quite frankly.
>
> Settle on a standard --exclude pattern, and you don't need two trees of
> any sort.
>
> Currently, I believe --exclude *-DVD.iso should work, but --exclude
> *-DVD*.iso might be a better (future-proof) pattern.
>
> One can easily export two different rsync modules with and without DVD
> images, if that's at all desirable, simply by putting the exclude
> pattern in rsyncd.conf.
>
I totaly agree. It's simpler for CentOS to administrer ONE single
repository, and easier for all of us have one repository to deal with.
Most of us have enough disk space for the DVD isos anyway. Those who
don't, can use a exclude pattern - which can be documentet on the
CentOS mirroring howto page:
http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=22
It more KISS and most Linux distributions do this, so why can't
CentOS?
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:23:04 -0500
From: Johnny Hughes <mailing-lists@hughesjr.com>
Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <
centos-mirror@centos.org>
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On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 09:05 +0200, Lars Strand wrote:
> On tir, 17 apr 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>
> >
> > Both are pretty ridiculous, quite frankly.
> >
> > Settle on a standard --exclude pattern, and you don't need two trees of
> > any sort.
> >
> > Currently, I believe --exclude *-DVD.iso should work, but --exclude
> > *-DVD*.iso might be a better (future-proof) pattern.
> >
> > One can easily export two different rsync modules with and without DVD
> > images, if that's at all desirable, simply by putting the exclude
> > pattern in rsyncd.conf.
> >
>
> I totaly agree. It's simpler for CentOS to administrer ONE single
> repository, and easier for all of us have one repository to deal with.
> Most of us have enough disk space for the DVD isos anyway. Those who
> don't, can use a exclude pattern - which can be documentet on the
> CentOS mirroring howto page:
>
> http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=22
>
> It more KISS and most Linux distributions do this, so why can't
> CentOS?
Well ... we have several (20-30) internal centos mirrors that we use to
distribute the CentOS to the world ... and those mirrors do not all have
the DVD on them because we do not have the drive space available on
those donated servers to put all the DVDs on. We do not want to loose
half of our mirror bandwidth because we put DVDs in the mainline tree.
As for external mirrors, I think it would be nice for you to provide 2
targets (one with and one without DVDs) if you carry the DVDs, but it
should not be hard to tell people to exclude DVDs if they don't want
them.
In a perfect world, CentOS could just have one tree because all our
internal servers would have > 1TB of storage space and everything would
fit on each mirror ... in the real world our internal servers are
donated and we get whatever the donor has to offer and we use it in as
many ways as we can to distribute CentOS to millions of people :P
I hope this makes it easier to understand why the DVDs are a subset on
the CentOS mirrors at least.
Thanks,
Johnny Hughes
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:31:18 +0100
From: Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom <
nuno.vieira@nfsi.pt>
Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <
centos-mirror@centos.org>
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Hi Johnny,
Can you send me some samples of how to mirror the DVD tree ? (i
believe that other persons in this list, with the same problem, will
thank aswell)
If needed, our IP is
81.92.200.26
thanks in advance.
cheers,
--nvieira
On Apr 18, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 09:05 +0200, Lars Strand wrote:
>> On tir, 17 apr 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Both are pretty ridiculous, quite frankly.
>>>
>>> Settle on a standard --exclude pattern, and you don't need two
>>> trees of
>>> any sort.
>>>
>>> Currently, I believe --exclude *-DVD.iso should work, but --exclude
>>> *-DVD*.iso might be a better (future-proof) pattern.
>>>
>>> One can easily export two different rsync modules with and
>>> without DVD
>>> images, if that's at all desirable, simply by putting the exclude
>>> pattern in rsyncd.conf.
>>>
>>
>> I totaly agree. It's simpler for CentOS to administrer ONE single
>> repository, and easier for all of us have one repository to deal
>> with.
>> Most of us have enough disk space for the DVD isos anyway. Those who
>> don't, can use a exclude pattern - which can be documentet on the
>> CentOS mirroring howto page:
>>
>> http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=22
>>
>> It more KISS and most Linux distributions do this, so why can't
>> CentOS?
>
> Well ... we have several (20-30) internal centos mirrors that we
> use to
> distribute the CentOS to the world ... and those mirrors do not all
> have
> the DVD on them because we do not have the drive space available on
> those donated servers to put all the DVDs on. We do not want to loose
> half of our mirror bandwidth because we put DVDs in the mainline tree.
>
> As for external mirrors, I think it would be nice for you to provide 2
> targets (one with and one without DVDs) if you carry the DVDs, but it
> should not be hard to tell people to exclude DVDs if they don't want
> them.
>
> In a perfect world, CentOS could just have one tree because all our
> internal servers would have > 1TB of storage space and everything
> would
> fit on each mirror ... in the real world our internal servers are
> donated and we get whatever the donor has to offer and we use it in as
> many ways as we can to distribute CentOS to millions of people :P
>
> I hope this makes it easier to understand why the DVDs are a subset on
> the CentOS mirrors at least.
>
> Thanks,
> Johnny Hughes
> _______________________________________________
> CentOS-mirror mailing list
> CentOS-mirror@centos.org
>
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:32:31 +0200
From: Guido Nickels <
mirrors@intergenia.de>
Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Syncing of CentOS 5 to mirrors.
To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror@centos.org>
Message-ID: <1176892351.26658.25.camel@gsn.intergenia.de>
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Am Mittwoch, den 11.04.2007, 23:52 +0100 schrieb Lance Davis:
>
> The sync seems to be going apace now - we aim to release tomorrow.
>
> Please would mirrors that have synced and have approx 20GB in the
> centos/5.0/ tree email this list to confirm.
sorry for being late... centos.intergenia.de is in sync for CentOS 5.0
repos. We had some issue regarding permissions of the 5.0 directory but
that's fixed and tested now.
Cheers!
Guido
Guido S. Nickels
intergenia Webhosting AG, Operations
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