Hi,
This is a somewhat minor question, borne more of a curiosity. I noticed that my mirror, https://centos.alteeve.com, doesn't show up on the (Canadian) mirror list. In fact, none from Ontario, Canada are. Any idea why?
As an aside, congrats to all for getting 6.1 out! :)
Thanks
On 12/08/2011 07:47 PM, Digimer wrote:
Hi,
This is a somewhat minor question, borne more of a curiosity. I noticed that my mirror, https://centos.alteeve.com, doesn't show up on the (Canadian) mirror list. In fact, none from Ontario, Canada are. Any idea why?
As an aside, congrats to all for getting 6.1 out! :)
Thanks
Oh sheesh, not SSL; http://centos.alteeve.com :)
On 12/08/2011 06:48 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 12/08/2011 07:47 PM, Digimer wrote:
Hi,
This is a somewhat minor question, borne more of a curiosity. I noticed that my mirror, https://centos.alteeve.com, doesn't show up on the (Canadian) mirror list. In fact, none from Ontario, Canada are. Any idea why?
As an aside, congrats to all for getting 6.1 out! :)
Thanks
Oh sheesh, not SSL; http://centos.alteeve.com :)
We are getting closer to deploying mirrormanager, which will allow you to maintain your own entries to get on the mirrorlists.
Our current system requires us to make manual entries into the database ... and we are lazy :)
Yeah definitely weird...we don't show up anywhere neither (Tier1 - Ontario, Canada).... it's almost like there's a whole section missing?
-----Original Message----- From: Digimer Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:48 PM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Not on mirror list
On 12/08/2011 07:47 PM, Digimer wrote:
Hi,
This is a somewhat minor question, borne more of a curiosity. I noticed that my mirror, https://centos.alteeve.com, doesn't show up on the (Canadian) mirror list. In fact, none from Ontario, Canada are. Any idea why?
As an aside, congrats to all for getting 6.1 out! :)
Thanks
Oh sheesh, not SSL; http://centos.alteeve.com :)
On 12/09/2011 01:52 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Yeah definitely weird...we don't show up anywhere neither (Tier1 - Ontario, Canada).... it's almost like there's a whole section missing?
Make sure your IP's are marked correctly in the MaxMind GeoIP db.
Also, we dont do state level or region level selection its only at the country level. MirrorManager does not do this either, so that situation isnt going to improve ( for now.. )
- KB
Yes they are marked fine - we don't show up anywhere in the mirror list anymore.
http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=30
It shows Country and then State (Area)
We are definitely getting traffic etc - it's like several mirrors from Canada at least are missing from the list though.
Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Karanbir Singh Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:45 PM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Not on mirror list
On 12/09/2011 01:52 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Yeah definitely weird...we don't show up anywhere neither (Tier1 - Ontario, Canada).... it's almost like there's a whole section missing?
Make sure your IP's are marked correctly in the MaxMind GeoIP db.
Also, we dont do state level or region level selection its only at the country level. MirrorManager does not do this either, so that situation isnt going to improve ( for now.. )
- KB _______________________________________________ CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
We do show up just fine here http://mirror-status.centos.org/#ca
Our status shows "ok"
Thanks,
Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:00 AM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Not on mirror list
Yes they are marked fine - we don't show up anywhere in the mirror list anymore.
http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=30
It shows Country and then State (Area)
We are definitely getting traffic etc - it's like several mirrors from Canada at least are missing from the list though.
Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Karanbir Singh Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:45 PM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Not on mirror list
On 12/09/2011 01:52 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Yeah definitely weird...we don't show up anywhere neither (Tier1 - Ontario, Canada).... it's almost like there's a whole section missing?
Make sure your IP's are marked correctly in the MaxMind GeoIP db.
Also, we dont do state level or region level selection its only at the country level. MirrorManager does not do this either, so that situation isnt going to improve ( for now.. )
- KB _______________________________________________ CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
_______________________________________________ CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
On 09.12.2011 12:00, Paul Stewart wrote:
Yes they are marked fine - we don't show up anywhere in the mirror list anymore.
Um guys? You have noticed that there are *TWO* north american pages now? And that those are ordered by *STATE*, so that ONtario comes on the second page (States N-Z)?
If not: We now have two pages for north american mirrors, which are ordered by state. So ONtario is on page two (states N-Z).
Cheers,
Ralph
Thank you - very misleading to have part of Canada listed on the first page and then another portion on the second page. I didn't realize this as it used to be all one page....
-----Original Message----- From: centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Angenendt Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:43 PM To: centos-mirror@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Not on mirror list
On 09.12.2011 12:00, Paul Stewart wrote:
Yes they are marked fine - we don't show up anywhere in the mirror list anymore.
Um guys? You have noticed that there are *TWO* north american pages now? And that those are ordered by *STATE*, so that ONtario comes on the second page (States N-Z)?
If not: We now have two pages for north american mirrors, which are ordered by state. So ONtario is on page two (states N-Z).
Cheers,
Ralph
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I don't expect sub-country-level GeoIP to be of benefit, because inside a country, the network topology rarely matches the physical geography in any close relationship.
-- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist Dell | Office of the CTO
-----Original Message----- From: centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Karanbir Singh Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:45 PM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Not on mirror list
On 12/09/2011 01:52 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Yeah definitely weird...we don't show up anywhere neither (Tier1 - Ontario, Canada).... it's almost like there's a whole section missing?
Make sure your IP's are marked correctly in the MaxMind GeoIP db.
Also, we dont do state level or region level selection its only at the country level. MirrorManager does not do this either, so that situation isnt going to improve ( for now.. )
- KB _______________________________________________ CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
On 12/09/2011 02:31 PM, Matt_Domsch@Dell.com wrote:
I don't expect sub-country-level GeoIP to be of benefit, because inside a country, the network topology rarely matches the physical geography in any close relationship.
In some places it makes quite a big difference, eg: Hawaii is linked up in a way that local traffic is always going to be faster than, say from NYC. Similarly in Europe and parts of Asia, most people peer locally.
Also, keep in mind that large numbers of CentOS installs existing inside local DC's ( its not uncommon to have 20,000 CentOS installs within 2 hops of a mirror ). They should always get a local preference rather than something from say 800 miles away. Similar universities etc.
- KB
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 09:33:37PM +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 12/09/2011 02:31 PM, Matt_Domsch@Dell.com wrote:
I don't expect sub-country-level GeoIP to be of benefit, because inside a country, the network topology rarely matches the physical geography in any close relationship.
In some places it makes quite a big difference, eg: Hawaii is linked up in a way that local traffic is always going to be faster than, say from NYC. Similarly in Europe and parts of Asia, most people peer locally.
Also, keep in mind that large numbers of CentOS installs existing inside local DC's ( its not uncommon to have 20,000 CentOS installs within 2 hops of a mirror ). They should always get a local preference rather than something from say 800 miles away. Similar universities etc.
MirrorManager redirects to a mirror in the same ASN if that is specified in the mirrormanager entry as well as it redirects to a mirror if the mirror admin (for that entry) specified which netblocks are local.
For my mirror, for example, I have specified over 20 subnets and those clients are always redirected to my mirror because they are connected to the same research network. So cases like universities and DC's are covered by MirrorManager (if the admin specified the correct information).
Adrian