I’d like to suggest that the mirror centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr/ should not be listed as a Canadian mirror. The IP look indicates the virtual host is in Turkey, not Canada. Perhaps it should be listed under Turkey mirrors instead.
I searched the Centos-mirror mailing list and could not find any discussion of this site before.
Thanks.
On 17/11/2020 16:59, Richard Muise wrote:
I’d like to suggest that the mirror centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr should not be listed as a Canadian mirror. The IP look indicates the virtual host is in Turkey, not Canada. Perhaps it should be listed under Turkey mirrors instead.
I searched the Centos-mirror mailing list and could not find any discussion of this site before.
Thanks.
I know it looked "strange" by looking at vhost/fqdn, but GeoIP lookup confirmed (from our pre-flight check) that it's indeed in Canada
And here is the original request that arrived on mailman, so yes, it was discussed : https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html
Do you have other GeoIP DB/proof that server isn't located in Canada ?
This is definitely located in Canada (end of mtr/traceroute initiated from within Canada): 5. ns-hlfx-br001.ns.eastlink.ca (24.215.101.221) 0.0% 95 95 0 34.1 31.5 35.5 57.9 0.3 3.4 25.7 6. (waiting for reply) 7. be102.bhs-g1-nc5.qc.ca (198.27.73.204) 0.0% 95 95 0 135.8 53.3 72.3 295.0 52.7 22.5 225. 8. (waiting for reply) 9. (waiting for reply) 10. (waiting for reply) 11. 192.95.3.130 (192.95.3.130) 0.0% 95 95 0 59.4 52.9 57.0 66.0 1.2 2.5 10.7
And the IP is owned by OVH Canada
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:44 PM Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
On 17/11/2020 16:59, Richard Muise wrote:
I’d like to suggest that the mirror centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr should not be listed as a Canadian mirror. The IP look indicates the virtual host is in Turkey, not Canada. Perhaps it should be listed under Turkey mirrors instead.
I searched the Centos-mirror mailing list and could not find any discussion of this site before.
Thanks.
I know it looked "strange" by looking at vhost/fqdn, but GeoIP lookup confirmed (from our pre-flight check) that it's indeed in Canada
And here is the original request that arrived on mailman, so yes, it was discussed : https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html
Do you have other GeoIP DB/proof that server isn't located in Canada ?
Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | twitter: @arrfab
CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
I'm also in Canada.
The IP addr seems to be OVH Canada, but OVH has really terrible reverse lookups, they drop the TLD, so there's no ovh.net or similar.
I can't currently ping the mirror server (ICMP echo request) but i do get a reply to HTTP, so good enough, i guess.
I'd like the mirror admin to respond to ICMP echo requests, however, it's helpful to users.
Cheers, Jonathan
On 2020-11-17 10:23, Darrell Dominey wrote:
This is definitely located in Canada (end of mtr/traceroute initiated from within Canada): 5. ns-hlfx-br001.ns.eastlink.ca http://ns-hlfx-br001.ns.eastlink.ca (24.215.101.221) 0.0% 95 95 0 34.1 31.5 35.5 57.9 0.3 3.4 25.7 6. (waiting for reply) 7. be102.bhs-g1-nc5.qc.ca http://be102.bhs-g1-nc5.qc.ca (198.27.73.204) 0.0% 95 95 0 135.8 53.3 72.3 295.0 52.7 22.5 225. 8. (waiting for reply) 9. (waiting for reply) 10. (waiting for reply) 11. 192.95.3.130 (192.95.3.130) 0.0% 95 95 0 59.4 52.9 57.0 66.0 1.2 2.5 10.7
And the IP is owned by OVH Canada
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:44 PM Fabian Arrotin <arrfab@centos.org mailto:arrfab@centos.org> wrote:
On 17/11/2020 16:59, Richard Muise wrote: > I’d like to suggest that the mirror centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr <http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr> > <http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr <http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr>> should not be listed as a > Canadian mirror. The IP look indicates the virtual host is in Turkey, > not Canada. Perhaps it should be listed under Turkey mirrors instead. > > I searched the Centos-mirror mailing list and could not find any > discussion of this site before. > > Thanks. > I know it looked "strange" by looking at vhost/fqdn, but GeoIP lookup confirmed (from our pre-flight check) that it's indeed in Canada And here is the original request that arrived on mailman, so yes, it was discussed : https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html <https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html> Do you have other GeoIP DB/proof that server isn't located in Canada ? -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org <https://www.centos.org> gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | twitter: @arrfab _______________________________________________ CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org <mailto:CentOS-mirror@centos.org> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror <https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror>-- Thanks, Darrell Dominey NetActuate, Inc
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Fabian, Sorry I had missed the original messages from the previous weekend. My search-fu is poor I guess. I see the thread now.
My comments apply to both centos-canada.altinsoft.net and centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr. They were both added in the same thread, Nov 8th and Nov 14th respectively, and by the same email address (support @ altinsoft.net). The domain servers for the second mirror is listed as ns*.onecloudserver.net, which is also tied to Altinsoft.
Altinsoft.net is a hosting company, and their contact page only lists their location as Turkey: https://www.altinsoft.net/contact. Their terms of service also clearly indicates that Altinsoft is Turkish company (see Supplier here: https://www.altinsoft.net/terms-of-service - quote “AltınSoft Information Technologies, a private company incorporated and registered in the Republic of Turkey…”).
Checking their hosting information, they state they have servers around the world, including Canada https://www.altinsoft.net/canada-ca-dedicated-servers (quote “Our Canada location servers are hosted in the OVH Canada data center).
So that confirms what Darrell and Jonathan reported - Canadian GeoIP because it is hosted in the OVH data centre. But I cannot find any information to indicate that Altinsoft, the company paying for this mirror, is not situated in Turkey. I cannot guess the reason why a Turkish company would choose to host a Centos Mirror for Canada when they do not appear to be hosting any for users in Turkey (I checked the 28 mirrors for Turkey).
Finally, and this is just an opinion, but the mail in the mailing list did not sound like a native English or French speaker. “We've sent it before, but we haven't received an answer What is the problem”, “Thank you for help” and “Please change.".
Perhaps this is not enough grounds to change the mirror list, but it does raise a number of flags.
Thank you for responding and pointing me to GeoIP, which I had not used before. And thank you for the work to maintain the list. I’ve been a volunteer in other projects, and I know it’s hard to balance incoming requests vs full-time work and family.
On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
On 17/11/2020 16:59, Richard Muise wrote:
I’d like to suggest that the mirror centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr should not be listed as a Canadian mirror. The IP look indicates the virtual host is in Turkey, not Canada. Perhaps it should be listed under Turkey mirrors instead.
I searched the Centos-mirror mailing list and could not find any discussion of this site before.
Thanks.
I know it looked "strange" by looking at vhost/fqdn, but GeoIP lookup confirmed (from our pre-flight check) that it's indeed in Canada
And here is the original request that arrived on mailman, so yes, it was discussed : https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html
Do you have other GeoIP DB/proof that server isn't located in Canada ?
Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | twitter: @arrfab
CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
According to the MaxMind GeoIP database, both IP addresses for both servers are located in Canada.
192.95.3.130 is in Montreal, Quebec and 144.217.237.129 is in Beauharnois, Quebec.
As has already been established, neither mirror accepts ICMP packets, so we cannot determine what the final destination is and where the servers are accurately located.
Both mirrors should be removed, until their location can be established with 100% certainty.
Thanks, Christopher Hawker
________________________________ From: CentOS-mirror centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Richard Muise richardmuise.ca@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:11 AM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. centos-mirror@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror
Fabian, Sorry I had missed the original messages from the previous weekend. My search-fu is poor I guess. I see the thread now.
My comments apply to both centos-canada.altinsoft.net and centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr. They were both added in the same thread, Nov 8th and Nov 14th respectively, and by the same email address (support @ altinsoft.net). The domain servers for the second mirror is listed as ns*.onecloudserver.net, which is also tied to Altinsoft.
Altinsoft.net is a hosting company, and their contact page only lists their location as Turkey: https://www.altinsoft.net/contact. Their terms of service also clearly indicates that Altinsoft is Turkish company (see Supplier here: https://www.altinsoft.net/terms-of-service - quote “AltınSoft Information Technologies, a private company incorporated and registered in the Republic of Turkey…”).
Checking their hosting information, they state they have servers around the world, including Canada https://www.altinsoft.net/canada-ca-dedicated-servers (quote “Our Canada location servers are hosted in the OVH Canada data center).
So that confirms what Darrell and Jonathan reported - Canadian GeoIP because it is hosted in the OVH data centre. But I cannot find any information to indicate that Altinsoft, the company paying for this mirror, is not situated in Turkey. I cannot guess the reason why a Turkish company would choose to host a Centos Mirror for Canada when they do not appear to be hosting any for users in Turkey (I checked the 28 mirrors for Turkey).
Finally, and this is just an opinion, but the mail in the mailing list did not sound like a native English or French speaker. “We've sent it before, but we haven't received an answer What is the problem”, “Thank you for help” and “Please change.".
Perhaps this is not enough grounds to change the mirror list, but it does raise a number of flags.
Thank you for responding and pointing me to GeoIP, which I had not used before. And thank you for the work to maintain the list. I’ve been a volunteer in other projects, and I know it’s hard to balance incoming requests vs full-time work and family.
On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
On 17/11/2020 16:59, Richard Muise wrote:
I’d like to suggest that the mirror centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr should not be listed as a Canadian mirror. The IP look indicates the virtual host is in Turkey, not Canada. Perhaps it should be listed under Turkey mirrors instead.
I searched the Centos-mirror mailing list and could not find any discussion of this site before.
Thanks.
I know it looked "strange" by looking at vhost/fqdn, but GeoIP lookup confirmed (from our pre-flight check) that it's indeed in Canada
And here is the original request that arrived on mailman, so yes, it was discussed : https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html
Do you have other GeoIP DB/proof that server isn't located in Canada ?
Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | twitter: @arrfab
CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
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To me it seems like Altinsoft.net is actually a reseller. They don't own any actual servers. In Canada, certain locations, the power costs are cheaper than Europe That's probably the reason the mirror hosted here in Canada.
And like Christopher mentioned, both IPs resolve to OVH in Quebec http://i.ping.pe/A/P/img_AP8D9PsK.png http://i.ping.pe/h/d/img_hduxpPZ2.png
Regards, Alex ________________________________ From: CentOS-mirror centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Christopher Hawker email@chrishawker.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:08 PM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. centos-mirror@centos.org; richardmuise.ca@gmail.com richardmuise.ca@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror
According to the MaxMind GeoIP database, both IP addresses for both servers are located in Canada.
192.95.3.130 is in Montreal, Quebec and 144.217.237.129 is in Beauharnois, Quebec.
As has already been established, neither mirror accepts ICMP packets, so we cannot determine what the final destination is and where the servers are accurately located.
Both mirrors should be removed, until their location can be established with 100% certainty.
Thanks, Christopher Hawker
________________________________ From: CentOS-mirror centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Richard Muise richardmuise.ca@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:11 AM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. centos-mirror@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror
Fabian, Sorry I had missed the original messages from the previous weekend. My search-fu is poor I guess. I see the thread now.
My comments apply to both centos-canada.altinsoft.net and centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr. They were both added in the same thread, Nov 8th and Nov 14th respectively, and by the same email address (support @ altinsoft.net). The domain servers for the second mirror is listed as ns*.onecloudserver.net, which is also tied to Altinsoft.
Altinsoft.net is a hosting company, and their contact page only lists their location as Turkey: https://www.altinsoft.net/contact. Their terms of service also clearly indicates that Altinsoft is Turkish company (see Supplier here: https://www.altinsoft.net/terms-of-service - quote “AltınSoft Information Technologies, a private company incorporated and registered in the Republic of Turkey…”).
Checking their hosting information, they state they have servers around the world, including Canada https://www.altinsoft.net/canada-ca-dedicated-servers (quote “Our Canada location servers are hosted in the OVH Canada data center).
So that confirms what Darrell and Jonathan reported - Canadian GeoIP because it is hosted in the OVH data centre. But I cannot find any information to indicate that Altinsoft, the company paying for this mirror, is not situated in Turkey. I cannot guess the reason why a Turkish company would choose to host a Centos Mirror for Canada when they do not appear to be hosting any for users in Turkey (I checked the 28 mirrors for Turkey).
Finally, and this is just an opinion, but the mail in the mailing list did not sound like a native English or French speaker. “We've sent it before, but we haven't received an answer What is the problem”, “Thank you for help” and “Please change.".
Perhaps this is not enough grounds to change the mirror list, but it does raise a number of flags.
Thank you for responding and pointing me to GeoIP, which I had not used before. And thank you for the work to maintain the list. I’ve been a volunteer in other projects, and I know it’s hard to balance incoming requests vs full-time work and family.
On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
On 17/11/2020 16:59, Richard Muise wrote:
I’d like to suggest that the mirror centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr should not be listed as a Canadian mirror. The IP look indicates the virtual host is in Turkey, not Canada. Perhaps it should be listed under Turkey mirrors instead.
I searched the Centos-mirror mailing list and could not find any discussion of this site before.
Thanks.
I know it looked "strange" by looking at vhost/fqdn, but GeoIP lookup confirmed (from our pre-flight check) that it's indeed in Canada
And here is the original request that arrived on mailman, so yes, it was discussed : https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html
Do you have other GeoIP DB/proof that server isn't located in Canada ?
Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | twitter: @arrfab
CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
_______________________________________________ CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
AFAIK, you don't need to be an IT company, or even operate a business. You just need to be able to meet the requirements for hosting a CentOS mirror so being a reseller shouldn't matter.
The mirrors should be removed as they are not in the locations mentioned.
Thanks, Christopher Hawker
________________________________ From: CentOS-mirror centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Alexandre Leonenko alex@esecuredata.com Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 1:20 PM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. centos-mirror@centos.org; richardmuise.ca@gmail.com richardmuise.ca@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror
To me it seems like Altinsoft.net is actually a reseller. They don't own any actual servers. In Canada, certain locations, the power costs are cheaper than Europe That's probably the reason the mirror hosted here in Canada.
And like Christopher mentioned, both IPs resolve to OVH in Quebec http://i.ping.pe/A/P/img_AP8D9PsK.png http://i.ping.pe/h/d/img_hduxpPZ2.png
Regards, Alex ________________________________ From: CentOS-mirror centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Christopher Hawker email@chrishawker.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:08 PM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. centos-mirror@centos.org; richardmuise.ca@gmail.com richardmuise.ca@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror
According to the MaxMind GeoIP database, both IP addresses for both servers are located in Canada.
192.95.3.130 is in Montreal, Quebec and 144.217.237.129 is in Beauharnois, Quebec.
As has already been established, neither mirror accepts ICMP packets, so we cannot determine what the final destination is and where the servers are accurately located.
Both mirrors should be removed, until their location can be established with 100% certainty.
Thanks, Christopher Hawker
________________________________ From: CentOS-mirror centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Richard Muise richardmuise.ca@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:11 AM To: Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. centos-mirror@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror
Fabian, Sorry I had missed the original messages from the previous weekend. My search-fu is poor I guess. I see the thread now.
My comments apply to both centos-canada.altinsoft.net and centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr. They were both added in the same thread, Nov 8th and Nov 14th respectively, and by the same email address (support @ altinsoft.net). The domain servers for the second mirror is listed as ns*.onecloudserver.net, which is also tied to Altinsoft.
Altinsoft.net is a hosting company, and their contact page only lists their location as Turkey: https://www.altinsoft.net/contact. Their terms of service also clearly indicates that Altinsoft is Turkish company (see Supplier here: https://www.altinsoft.net/terms-of-service - quote “AltınSoft Information Technologies, a private company incorporated and registered in the Republic of Turkey…”).
Checking their hosting information, they state they have servers around the world, including Canada https://www.altinsoft.net/canada-ca-dedicated-servers (quote “Our Canada location servers are hosted in the OVH Canada data center).
So that confirms what Darrell and Jonathan reported - Canadian GeoIP because it is hosted in the OVH data centre. But I cannot find any information to indicate that Altinsoft, the company paying for this mirror, is not situated in Turkey. I cannot guess the reason why a Turkish company would choose to host a Centos Mirror for Canada when they do not appear to be hosting any for users in Turkey (I checked the 28 mirrors for Turkey).
Finally, and this is just an opinion, but the mail in the mailing list did not sound like a native English or French speaker. “We've sent it before, but we haven't received an answer What is the problem”, “Thank you for help” and “Please change.".
Perhaps this is not enough grounds to change the mirror list, but it does raise a number of flags.
Thank you for responding and pointing me to GeoIP, which I had not used before. And thank you for the work to maintain the list. I’ve been a volunteer in other projects, and I know it’s hard to balance incoming requests vs full-time work and family.
On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
On 17/11/2020 16:59, Richard Muise wrote:
I’d like to suggest that the mirror centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr should not be listed as a Canadian mirror. The IP look indicates the virtual host is in Turkey, not Canada. Perhaps it should be listed under Turkey mirrors instead.
I searched the Centos-mirror mailing list and could not find any discussion of this site before.
Thanks.
I know it looked "strange" by looking at vhost/fqdn, but GeoIP lookup confirmed (from our pre-flight check) that it's indeed in Canada
And here is the original request that arrived on mailman, so yes, it was discussed : https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html
Do you have other GeoIP DB/proof that server isn't located in Canada ?
Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | twitter: @arrfab
CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
_______________________________________________ CentOS-mirror mailing list CentOS-mirror@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
Even though the final destination does not accept ICMP, the routing from my location goes to New York, NJ, and then Canada. It is highly unlikely that the mirror is located anywhere other than Canada.
Cheers,
Nathan
On 11/18/20 12:15 AM, Christopher Hawker wrote:
AFAIK, you don't need to be an IT company, or even operate a business. You just need to be able to meet the requirements for hosting a CentOS mirror so being a reseller shouldn't matter.
The mirrors should be removed as they are not in the locations mentioned.
Thanks, Christopher Hawker
*From:* CentOS-mirror centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Alexandre Leonenko alex@esecuredata.com *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 November 2020 1:20 PM *To:* Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. centos-mirror@centos.org; richardmuise.ca@gmail.com richardmuise.ca@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror To me it seems like Altinsoft.net is actually a reseller. They don't own any actual servers. In Canada, certain locations, the power costs are cheaper than Europe That's probably the reason the mirror hosted here in Canada.
And like Christopher mentioned, both IPs resolve to OVH in Quebec http://i.ping.pe/A/P/img_AP8D9PsK.png http://i.ping.pe/h/d/img_hduxpPZ2.png
Regards, Alex
*From:* CentOS-mirror centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Christopher Hawker email@chrishawker.com.au *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:08 PM *To:* Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. centos-mirror@centos.org; richardmuise.ca@gmail.com richardmuise.ca@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror According to the MaxMind GeoIP database, both IP addresses for both servers are located in Canada.
192.95.3.130 is in Montreal, Quebec and 144.217.237.129 is in Beauharnois, Quebec.
As has already been established, neither mirror accepts ICMP packets, so we cannot determine what the final destination is and where the servers are accurately located.
Both mirrors should be removed, until their location can be established with 100% certainty.
Thanks, Christopher Hawker
*From:* CentOS-mirror centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Richard Muise richardmuise.ca@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:11 AM *To:* Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. centos-mirror@centos.org *Subject:* Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror Fabian, Sorry I had missed the original messages from the previous weekend. My search-fu is poor I guess. I see the thread now.
My comments apply to both centos-canada.altinsoft.net and centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr. They were both added in the same thread, Nov 8th and Nov 14th respectively, and by the same email address (support @ altinsoft.net). The domain servers for the second mirror is listed as ns*.onecloudserver.net, which is also tied to Altinsoft.
Altinsoft.net is a hosting company, and their contact page only lists their location as Turkey: https://www.altinsoft.net/contact. Their terms of service also clearly indicates that Altinsoft is Turkish company (see Supplier here: https://www.altinsoft.net/terms-of-service - quote “AltınSoft Information Technologies, a private company incorporated and registered in the Republic of Turkey…”).
Checking their hosting information, they state they have servers around the world, including Canada https://www.altinsoft.net/canada-ca-dedicated-servers (quote “Our Canada location servers are hosted in the OVH Canada data center).
So that confirms what Darrell and Jonathan reported - Canadian GeoIP because it is hosted in the OVH data centre. But I cannot find any information to indicate that Altinsoft, the company paying for this mirror, is not situated in Turkey. I cannot guess the reason why a Turkish company would choose to host a Centos Mirror for Canada when they do not appear to be hosting any for users in Turkey (I checked the 28 mirrors for Turkey).
Finally, and this is just an opinion, but the mail in the mailing list did not sound like a native English or French speaker. “We've sent it before, but we haven't received an answer What is the problem”, “Thank you for help” and “Please change.".
Perhaps this is not enough grounds to change the mirror list, but it does raise a number of flags.
Thank you for responding and pointing me to GeoIP, which I had not used before. And thank you for the work to maintain the list. I’ve been a volunteer in other projects, and I know it’s hard to balance incoming requests vs full-time work and family.
On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
On 17/11/2020 16:59, Richard Muise wrote:
I’d like to suggest that the mirror centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr should not be listed as a Canadian mirror. The IP look indicates the virtual host is in Turkey, not Canada. Perhaps it should be listed under Turkey mirrors instead.
I searched the Centos-mirror mailing list and could not find any discussion of this site before.
Thanks.
I know it looked "strange" by looking at vhost/fqdn, but GeoIP lookup confirmed (from our pre-flight check) that it's indeed in Canada
And here is the original request that arrived on mailman, so yes, it was discussed :
https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html
Do you have other GeoIP DB/proof that server isn't located in Canada ?
Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | twitter: @arrfab
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On 18/11/2020 16:59, Nathan Spiegel wrote:
Even though the final destination does not accept ICMP, the routing from my location goes to New York, NJ, and then Canada. It is highly unlikely that the mirror is located anywhere other than Canada.
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Just to close this thread (except if there are really reasons to keep it going) : - they claimed mirror was in Canada, and it is - it's fine to have a country extension that doesn't match the server location as we use GeoIP also at mirrorlist level, so that means that nobody from Turkey would hit that mirror and no speed issue either
So no action to take, let's enjoy life and move on ? :)
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