[Arm-dev] supported 64bit hardware

Nick Hardiman nick at internetmachines.co.uk
Mon Dec 5 22:03:30 UTC 2016


> On 5 Dec 2016, at 16:38, Jim Perrin <jperrin at centos.org> wrote:
> 
> I haven't put much futher effort/consideration into the hikey. I need to
> look at it again more closely to see how much they've managed to get
> into the upstream kernel, or what it would take to add support to the
> 4.5 based kernel coming in the 7.3.1611 build.

OK, thanks. I didn't get past sticking hi6220 in Google and randomly clicking on https://github.com/96boards-hikey/linux <https://github.com/96boards-hikey/linux>.

> While I can't promise anything yet, we should also have a patchset
> coming that would enable 64bit support for the rpi3 for everything
> except graphics. The upstream graphics driver isn't as stable as I'd
> like so I'm looking at restricting that to console only for now.

I thought rpi3 was a non-starter because of missing firmware. Maybe I remembered that wrong. I’m not interested in graphics, so that is a possibility.

> On 12/04/2016 09:27 AM, Nick Hardiman wrote:
>> I was on the verge of buying a couple small SBCs back in September, to
>> install CentOS on. But then I stopped to concentrate on my RHCE exam.
>> Now I’m trying to pick up where I left off.
>> 
>> I remember Uli Middleburg said Odroid C2 was not far off having all
>> device drivers in the mainline kernel. 
>> 
>> How’s kernel support for the LeMaker HiKey? Have things moved on since
>> Jim Perrin wrote these build instructions? 
>> https://people.centos.org/jperrin/hikey/ReadMe.txt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Sep 2016, at 18:25, Nick Hardiman <nick at internetmachines.co.uk
>>> <mailto:nick at internetmachines.co.uk <mailto:nick at internetmachines.co.uk>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Sep 2016, at 18:55, Jeffrey Walton <noloader at gmail.com <mailto:noloader at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:noloader at gmail.com <mailto:noloader at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There are four small ARMv8 dev-boards I am aware. I have all of them
>>>> for testing software. They are:
>>>> 
>>>> * LeMaker HiKey (Aarch64, ASIMD, CRC, Crypto)
>>>> * Pine64 (Aarch64, ASIMD, CRC, Crypto)
>>>> * ODROID-C2 (Aarch64, ASIMD, CRC)
>>>> * Raspberry Pi-3 (Armhf (not even Aarch32))
>>> 
>>> Good summary, thanks.
>>> 
>>>> I would avoid the RPI3. Its in a crummy configuration, and mine died
>>>> after about 2 weeks.
>>> 
>>> That’s a shocker. I will strike the RPi from my list of possibles -
>>> seems a shame. I wonder how durable the others are.
>>> 
>>> What I want to do here is find out if these are useful for offloading
>>> simple services - maybe one per board. I don’t know the advantages of
>>> a set of small, physically discrete, devices running a set of
>>> services, and I’d like to find out. I know they’d be a trainwreck for
>>> a customer-facing dynamically generated website. But what about NTP?
>>> True randomness maybe? How would they handle generating Kerberos
>>> tickets, or providing service discovery? Does XEN slow them down to a
>>> crawl? Can they generate synthetic load, and monitor the results? No idea.
>>> 
>>> I may be barking up the wrong tree here. If UEFI is the way forward, I
>>> don’t imagine a distro-maintained kernel package will ever be supplied
>>> for any of these consumer-size boards. So there’s no avoiding u-boot
>>> tinkering, /boot/ copying or kernel compiling when dealing with
>>> consumer boards like these. Does that sound right?
>>> 
>>>> At the higher end, there are two servers I am aware. I believe the
>>>> Applied Micro X-gene is the Mustang board.
>>>> 
>>>> * Mustang board (early ones lack CRC and Crypto)
>>>> * Overdrive 1000 (AMD ARMv8 processor)
>>> 
>>> I searched for the Gigabyte MP30-AR0 after Gordan described it. It’s
>>> not right for my pet project here, but I can see the appeal for the
>>> day job. And if this 32 core X-Gene3 appears, maybe that will be a lot
>>> of bang for your buck.
>>> 
>>>> The Overdrive never arrived (more
>>>> correctly, it never shipped), and I'm trying to get a refund on the
>>>> purchase.
>>> 
>>> Sorry to hear that. Sounds like there are more of these bigger boards
>>> on the way - Lenovator Cello maybe?
>>> 
>>> I don’t know about Cavium, and AMD's Seattle chipsets.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the help. I am enlightened.
>>> Nick
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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