Hi Jon, Could you point me at the ARM server standards you are referring to specifically? Thanks, Scott -----Original Message----- From: Arm-dev [mailto:arm-dev-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Jon Masters Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 6:57 PM To: arm-dev at centos.org Subject: [Arm-dev] ACPI Hi all, Most of you know me. For those who don't, I'm Chief ARM Architect at Red Hat and started the internal Red Hat ARM team back in 2011. I've also worked on creating most of the ARM server standards, and with every silicon vendor since their design was a paper napkin drawing. So it is with some authority I can tell you that ARM servers without ACPI have no future. Those of you booting with "acpi=off" are running machines completely in violation of the ARM server specs (which mandate the use of ACPI tables). You can choose to do this, but such configs have never been tested and are completely guaranteed to break randomly in the future when you update the distribution, or the hardware. But not everyone has fully gotten this message. Beginning in the next release of the upstream distro from which CentOS inherits its sources, there is a nasty warning message which will be printed if you boot while attempting to disable ACPI, or even if the platform contains DeviceTree tables (whether used or not). The kernel will also taint itself if it detects the presence of DeviceTree on a platform at all. Going forward, I am instituting logic that will cause the kernel to panic and fail to boot at all when a platform contains a DeviceTree (whether used or not) unless some parameter like "platform_is_broken" is passed to the kernel. This is irrespective of whether you actually boot with ACPI or not. All platforms that aren't simply ACPI must be removed from the face of the earth as quickly as possible and replaced with fully standardized ones compliant with the ARM server specs. The good news is that firmware updates will allow anyone still shipping a DeviceTree to remove it from future platform updates to be compliant. Now is a good time to stop thinking about disabling ACPI. It is only going to get much, much harder to turn it off. Jon. _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev at centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev