This is a resend of a message from last month which got no response.... iprutils and openCryptoki have source rpms in the CentOS 4.3 / RHEL4u3 update, but there don't appear to be any corresponding binaries. These appear to be new packages in the update (not there before u3, unless I'm confused). Any idea what's going on here? Thanks! -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/>