[CentOS-devel] iptables-devel in centos 4.4

Johnny Hughes mailing-lists at hughesjr.com
Wed Aug 23 17:34:40 UTC 2006

On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 09:59 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: 
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 08:48:01AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > Also, notice now that the beta channel is gone after the 4u4 release.
> > All those files do not exist at RH anymore.  The gcc they released
> > happened to be 3.4.6-3 ... but it could have been 3.4.6-4 or something
> > else in 4u4 (there was a different glibc, for example, than in the
> > beta). So, you would have us produce a kernel with an RPM that was never
> > officially released upstream ... one that might disappear when they
> > release the update set, that doesn't appear on any RH ftp server?
> What about
> <ftp.redhat.com:/pub/redhat/linux/updates/enterprise/4AS/en/os/SRPMS/gcc-3.4.6-3.src.rpm>
> Dated June 12th?
> But on the other hand, the name calling has got to stop. Milan, Johnny is
> nothing but responsible and professional.

Matt ... we are using gcc-3.4.6-3 now ... as it is being released in
CentOS-4.4 ... however at the time of the kernel release in question
(more than a month BEFORE the RHEL 4u4 release), there was no idea what
what binutils, glibc or gcc was going to be released.  The new kernels
are being built with the 4.4 toolchain, as is our standard practice.

But as an example, the stable glibc was glibc-2.3.4-2.19 in 4.3,
glibc-2.3.4-2.22 was in the beta and they released glibc-2.3.4-2.25 with
4.4.  If i built real items against glibc-2.3.4-2.22, who knows what
issues it will introduce.  Obviously glibc-2.3.4-2.22 is not stable, as
they rolled in changes from the Beta test period to finally release
glibc-2.3.4-2.25.  glibc-2.3.4-2.22 is not anywhere to be found now on
the RH site since the beta channel is erased ... and only
glibc-2.3.4-2.19 and glibc-2.3.4-2.25 are available from RHN.  Having a
glibc-2.3.4-2.22 or items built against it would not be at all like

We will only build with released tool chains .. and whenever possible,
we will build against the same tool chain as upstream. Some times that
is not possible.  In the cases where it is not possible, we will build
against the stable CentOS tree.

We won't build against items in a beta status.

Johnny Hughes

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