In the interest of sanity, I say we let this thread die. Until William is able to understand the flaws in the information he gives, or believe what several developers are telling him ( ie there's no way to build a kernel from a -devel package) then there's little point in continuing this. I don't want to see the mailing list turn into the same noise that embodied the irc channel for nearly 2 hours. The centosplus kernel is very clear proof that the x86_64 kernel can be rebuilt, and built with varying modules etc. That it cannot be easily rebuilt on gentoo is something that doesn't concern me at all. It could be anything from autoFU version differences to nptl not being on the gentoo box to solar flares. It's not something I feel we need to support. End of discussion. Arguments of "but gentoo $VALUE" will only be answered with a retort of "This ain't gentoo". -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety'' Benjamin Franklin 1775