We are about to release an initial internal test release of CentOS 5 beta to our qa team. If folks here want to be a part of that test they need to join the centos-qa list (http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-qa) and send a message to this list (centos-devel) saying that they would like to be a part of the qa process and join the qa team, with details of relevant experience if you are not known to the core developers. Membership of the centos-qa list will then be approved. Lance -- uklinux.net - The ISP of choice for the discerning Linux user.