Rodrigo Barbosa wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 10:54:05PM +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote: >> Joshua Kramer wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> Does anyone have a timeline for the CentOS 5 release candidates and/or >>> final? >> We will aim to have the CentOS-5 Final release within 2 weeks of >> upstream release. So far, based on news around ETA upstream looks like >> 15th March. > > Karan, > I'm asking, obviously, for a guess here. > > How viable do you think it will be to do an upgrade from > 4.4 to 5 on a live system, based on what you've seen on the beta ? Ok, there are 2 methods to consider here : 1. doing it with yum on a running machine : its do-able, but requires some $clue. The aim is to proide this $clue via a shell script that anyone can run to 'move' a machine from C-4 to C-5. There are some issues to keep in mind - the only way to handle conflicting packages is by repackaging an existing rpm then rpm -e -justdb removing them, going through the upgrade and then doing the safest cleanup possible at the end. 2. doing it via anaconda's upgradeany method : this is a bit simpler since packages are more or less just installed from scratch onto the same filesystem. The issues that I've had to work with ( and have a couple of patches for ) are when users have CentOS-Plus or CentOS-Extras enabled. Packages from these repo's are not really orphans, and should not be treated as such. Exactly how we handle these is still semi-open-to-discussion. But rather than having that discussion right now, I think lets have that post-c5beta, so we fix real problems rather than hypothetical ones. Either way, orphans are going to get created - and extra dep's are going to get installed ( in most cases ) - and the best way to work around that, i feel, is to have a firstboot plugin that handles it for anaconda upgradeany upgrades and via a shell script for yum upgrades. Once we have this script running the way we want, we can then drop that into a rpm and moving it into centos-4-extras. Thereby making a move to centos-5 as simple as 'yum install upgrade-to-centos5' from a centos-4 machine -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq