>> 2) If you look at the way remote desktop(vino-server) and vnc work it is >> impossible to remote control the session if the machine is not already >> logged in (the session doesn't exist). Some dirty workarounds do exist >> i.e the machine uses gnome session, but vnc uses a kde session to avoid >> various conflicts. > I have to disagree. I have a couple of servers that only boot to a level 3 > login screen, but I can use vnc to these servers with no problems. The local > terminal rarely gets logged into unless I am using the CDrom drive to load or > fix something. The vnc service does log in to a user account, but you can fix > it to work off xinetd, and block it from being accessed from outside. > Ok your right. If you can run in runlevel 3 all the time and never need the graphical environment for backup, management or configuration tools you will never have a conflict between a local gnome session and another gnome session used by vnc. Your solution works perfectly well here. However if you need to be able to provide a graphical session at the console and a graphical session through vnc, the possibility for a conflict still does exists. In this situation pauls xorg-vnc suggestion would seem to be the answer. I will test both methods this weekend and write up a howto for the wiki. If Paul and Scott have anything they want to add, please mail me off list with the details and I'll follow your instructions on a clean 4.4 box. If I get chance I'll compare xrdp too. Thanks Jason_Meers -- website at: http://www.exim-new-users.co.uk hosting by: http://www.line3.co.uk