[CentOS-devel] Zero day updates upstream

John Summerfield debian at herakles.homelinux.org
Fri Mar 16 20:01:35 UTC 2007

Jeff Sheltren wrote:
> On Mar 16, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> C. Halstead wrote:
>>> ----- "Karanbir Singh" <mail-lists at karan.org> wrote:
>>>> Just talking to Lance and Johnny online, and we feel the best way 
>>>> forward might be to add an Media-Updates/ repo on the iso's itself - 
>>>> then list both the local media updates as well as mirror.centos.org 
>>>> updates repo's in the anaconda screen, both disabled.
>>>> We feel this gives us the max wins in each direction ( but will
>>>> slightly increase the data size on the last cd, as packages from cd-1
>>>> will move to cd-2 etc.
>>>> I will still try and ensure that a minimum install is possible using 
>>>> only cd-1, but cant promise that.
>>>> - KB
>>> +1 to this if we can still produce a single-CD minimal install.  IMO 
>>> the value if a one-disc install is higher than the value of a release 
>>> that contains the initial update set.  In a month or two there will 
>>> be additional updates to apply anyway, so it doesn't seem prudent to 
>>> sacrifice the one-disc install for the life of the release to gain a 
>>> (very) small convenience up front.  Just my .02
>>> ---
>> if we can get a few more people voting this way, then I feel we have a 
>> decision on this issue.
>> - KB
>  I am agreeable to this, but I would actually prefer to simply mimic 
> upstream -- release 5.0 with the same base pacakges as upstream, and 
> provide necessary updates in the updates repo.  I don't see a strong 
> reason to spend time modifying the CD images to contain a few package 
> updates that are easily downloaded after install time.

"easily downloaded?"

How long since you lived with this? I don't have a choice!
[summer at bilby ~]$ ping -c5 -q beta.centos.org
ping: unknown host beta.centos.org
[summer at bilby ~]$ ping -c5 -q beta.centos.org
PING beta.centos.org ( 56(84) bytes of data.

--- beta.centos.org ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 4 received, 20% packet loss, time 13070ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1073.620/1254.659/1491.147/184.761 ms, pipe 3
[summer at bilby ~]$
[summer at bilby ~]$

some of my systems rarely get software updates because it's too 
difficult. Software updates are rarely accessible when I install.

> If you proceed with the suggestion you mentioned above, are you implying 
> that the so called "zero day updates" will appear in both the 
> "media-updates" repo on the CD, and in the official updates repo on the 
> FTP & mirrors?
> -Jeff
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