[CentOS-devel] rhwas 5 work?

Jean-Marc LIGER jean-marc.liger at siris.sorbonne.fr
Thu Apr 10 09:54:39 UTC 2008

Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> John Summerfield wrote:
>>> William L. Maltby wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 20:29 +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>>>>> John Summerfield wrote:
>>>>>> Karanbir
>>>>>> I find you very difficult to deal with, and I don't want that. 
>>>>>> Can we
>>>>>> try to keep things calm?
>>>>> I am always calm :D
>>>>>> I have no standing with the CentOS project, and I don't wish to 
>>>>>> become a
>>>>>> developer. I know myself well enough to understand that it's not
>>>>>> something I do well, even though a resume of my experience might 
>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>> Well, the whole point to CentOS is that anyone and everyone should be
>>>>> able to help along. Dont need a tag / title..
>>>> And a good part of that is contributing ideas, pointers, support to
>>>> others, etc. IMO. Not everyone has time or inclination to 
>>>> contribute in
>>>> ways that the project might like.
>>>> And that fits within the spirit of open source, no?
>>> Thanks Bill.
>>> In this particular case, Johnny more than anyone else speaks for 
>>> CentOS, and I probably least of all.
>>> CentOS has a problem with the Sun licence. On checking, it didn't 
>>> seem so bad. Okay, so it maybe still isn't good enough. Perhaps one 
>>> of the leaders ought tell Sun; in view of its decision to 
>>> open-source Java, maybe Sun will move a little more. I don't think 
>>> IBM will argue against more freedom, it's been taking shots at Sun 
>>> over the matter for years.
>>> I'm the last person who should be negotiating on CentOS's behalf, 
>>> _this_ has to be done by an acknowledged leader, whether it's 
>>> Johnny, Karanbir or someone else. Someone with a sound knowledge of 
>>> the issues, someone Sun will see as someone representing the project.
>>> If the licence issue is resolved satisfactorily, _then_ there will 
>>> be some work to do, and maybe someone with needs in that area will 
>>> step up.
>> John,
>> Actually ... Sun DID do something about the license, they changed it 
>> completely for new versions of Java to GPL :D
>> The issue is, that the versions of Java that is GPL is 1.6.0 and 
>> newer ... and that CentOS-5 uses 1.4.2 level things.
>> The problem we have is with distributing the 1.4.2 version ... which 
>> Sun really can't change more than they have (or at least they seem 
>> unwilling to do so).
>> The GPL'ed version, 1.6.0, I am trying to get working on CentOS-5 in 
>> a sane way right now.
>> If we can make that work ... AND IF it will build the required java 
>> bits ... AND AGAIN IF we can make that work with the other gcj java 
>> bits already throughout CentOS, then we will be in business.
>> That is really the issue.
> OK ... some progress on this
> There are now java-1.6.0-openjdk packages for i386 in the testing repo:
> http://dev.centos.org/centos/5/testing/i386/RPMS/
> I am working on the x86_64 packages now.
> The next step will be to see if we can use these to make the JAVA bits 
> in RHWAS.
> Thanks.
> Johnny Hughes

There is something that I don't have clearly understood, why couldn't 
you use icedtea java instead ?

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