Les Mikesell wrote: > Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >>>>>> There is something that I don't have clearly understood, why >>>>>> couldn't you use icedtea java instead ? >>>>> >>>>> Because icedtea is Java 1.7, which isn't really there yet. This one is >>>>> Java 1.6. >>>> >>>> And even Java 1.6 is a strech, as the webstack is currently built >>>> using java-1.4.2 ... which we can not use to build since we can not >>>> distribute it. >>> >>> What's the problem with a jpackage nosrc rpm and instructions to >>> download your own copy of the java binary from Sun and execute this >>> command? >>> >> >> Because CentOS does not distribute RPMS that we can't get repo closure >> on. > > By popular demand? Dictated by some arbitrary policy? Because I said so :D > >> People expect that if they say yum install jbossas it will work and >> NOT require them to build stuff. > > I don't know anyone who currently expects that. Those expectations were > dashed long ago in the fedora/centos world along with any expectations > of java being usable at all. They used to expect to go spend a day > reading the jpackage docs to find the right pieces, then grab the Sun > package, rebuild the nosrc rpm, then use yum to install the jpackage > apps. But current fedora and Centos 5.x include broken versions of what > jpackage used to provide and jpackage doesn't even have documentation on > how to use their packages with them even thought the nosrc rpm for sun > would probably still work. > >> Also ... I can't build GPL stuff against NON-FREE stuff and distribute >> it as GPL :D > > Aggregation isn't a problem. It isn't aggregation IF it is a derivative work. > >> (Well or at least it is a questionable proactice) > > Nobody questioned it when Sun was the only possible JVM. > Sure it was ... you don't see any of that stuff in Fedora do you? Or Gentoo or Debian. If it was such a good idea, they all would have had it in there several years ago. >> AND since there is a FREE / GPL version available that is what we will >> use or we won't distribute it. > > But what about that expectation of working... > If it doesn't work it doesn't ship ... and we are right back where we started. The bottom line is if you require that, buy a RHWAS and jboss subscription ... at least if we can't make a redistributable one work. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/attachments/20080410/f0aad195/attachment-0007.sig>