Karanbir Singh wrote: > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> Java items require a contract and permission to ship from each of the >> vendors (IBM, BEA, Sun). Part of this comes from the overlying Sun >> contract that IBM/BEA have with Sun to use the Java trademark, and >> some come from usual business practices. With the application itself >> licensing is also involved, but that seems to be limited in some ways. >> Blech... every time I have had to deal with this in the past... the >> lawyers have to work it out first. > > Considering we dont have any lawyers, what would the next step be ? > I'm sending a bcc to Monica Pawlin at Sun. She has some involvement with Java, I'm hoping she can refer this to someone at Sun who matters. We have corresponded wrt Java and Blackboys (they're trees) before, and she told be about the Sun/Ubuntu announcement. Monica, I think you don't have a working email address for me, you certainly can't reach this one. summer js.id.au will do. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu Z1aaaaaaa at coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-)