>> > > > so in general, how do we know how the upstream builds things? are >> > > > there logs somewhere on ftp.redhat.com to look at? or do we have >> > > > moles that tell us? first off, i don't seem to be getting all of centos-devel. of this thread (6 messages on lists.centos.org), i only seemed to receive my initial post and the one from dag. are there any known problems with the devel email list? second, even though karanbir will be trying to build the rpms i am interested in, so far no one has actually answered how we know what rpmbuild command line to give. there are lots of --define possibilities and i don't see that info available from a binary rpm. so how do we know how to build a package?