On Monday 06 April 2009, Florian La Roche wrote: > Hello Peter, > > On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:04:13AM +0200, Peter Kjellstrom wrote: > > On Saturday 04 April 2009, Karanbir Singh wrote: > > > On 04/03/2009 05:18 PM, Pär Andersson wrote: > > > > However I think having debuginfo packages for the kernel in the main > > > > repository would really be a good thing as tools like oprofile and > > > > systemtap (both in base) need kernel-debuginfo to be usable. > > > > > > btw, does the kernel-debug not give you already everything that is > > > needed for systemtap/oprofile ? thats already there in the main distro > > > tree. > > > > kernel-debug is not at all what I typically want when I go looking for > > kernel-debuginfo. What I want is to run tools (like oprofile and > > systemtap) on that (running) system right there and then. Ideally that > > should go something like this: > > > > 1) uuh, I need to run this .stp-script > > 2) stap xxx.stp > > > > But since the kernel-debuginfo, kernel-devel may typically be missing for > > the running kernel the following step would have to be done between 1 and > > 2: > > > > 1.5) yum install kernel-debuginfo kernel-devel > > > > But since we today lack a yumified way of doing this the step above > > typically turns into: > > > > * look for a mirror that has debuginfo (sometimes it stops here with > > debuginfo for the kernel missing) > > I just add http://debuginfo.centos.org/$releasever/$basearch/ as a new repo > into all CentOS installs. Disabled by default, but prepared to download > rpms from if I need to. Of course this can be fixed manually like this. My post was intended to start a discussion on a global (official) "fix". My suggestion would be a disabled-by-default "debuginfo" in the CentOS-Base.repo file or like c5-testing in a different file. > > * download manually > > * install manually (including ignoring the fact that debuginfo packages > > are unsigned...) > > Hope this can be changed, but no idea where in the process this needs to > be. I think I've heard that it has to do with moving the built packages around so that they can be signed. Either way it would be nice to have it fixed. > > So I guess the good news is that here we have a part of CentOS with great > > potential for improvements :-) > > I think it is very good to keep the debuginfo separate from the rest of the > mirror system to not overload mirrors. Question will be on how that scales > with more and more people accessing debuginfo.centos.org. Maybe it could be resolved like DVD images? That is, a subset of mirrors opt in to carry debuginfo. I don't think there'd be any problems finding enough mirrors (the traffic is much less that the normal mirror traffic). /Peter -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/attachments/20090406/a9cd130e/attachment-0007.sig>