On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, James Olin Oden wrote: > Your spending a lot of time defending the status quo, but your not > really answering an honest complaint. What you see as a defense, I saw as an explanation to why it is the way it is. I think nobody argues that it is great the way it is. Especially within the CentOS project because it hurts our effort too. > I've spent a lot of time servicing customers, and when they complain to > you, they really don't care about explanations that don't try to help > them with their immediate problem. I am not disagreeing with you at all, but I don't see any solution from you either. CentOS does not have customers, and nothing should hold you back to implement a solution and offer it to Red Hat. CentOS can even help you with the resources if you want to make a CentOS project out of it. (Although it probably makes more sense as a Fedora or Red Hat project) But at the moment this is yet another task that requires people's time and I am not sure if we want to dedicate existing CentOS people to such a project if it has an impact on more important deliverables. The question really is: are you willing to be part of the solution ? I'd say we need more people to take action, and less people to argue :) If nobody stands up to fix this, we might see it as a sign that nobody thinks it is important (enough). Kind regards, -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors]