[CentOS-devel] [PHP 5.2.6] Feedback / Centos Testing and CentOS Extras

Jean-Marc LIGER

jean-marc.liger at siris.sorbonne.fr
Thu May 7 09:14:11 UTC 2009

Karanbir Singh a écrit :
> Jean-Marc LIGER wrote:
>>> how do you provide a upgrade path from the distro php to the >someother< php, 
>> We deal with yum install/update php5[-feature] and the 
>> Provides/Obsoletes options.
> but if php5-feature Obsoletes: php-feature, a yum upgrade will force the 
> user to php5.  

We assume that, as this is provided in a specific repo you have to 
enable first, and where you can exclude php5* if you want to proceed a 
yum upgrade.

>>> and how do you handle rpms for php-<feature> packages ?
>> All the php-<feature> are built with the same php5 rpm.
> That just sounds like a really bad idea. Imagine what would happen if 
> all of cpan was built into perl

Definitively yes or no, depending on what you are focus on :

- Yes in a distro packaging way, you should reduce build cpu time and 
bandwith consumption, so you split packages every time you can, to 
reduce src.rpm sizes and the numbers of packages you must rebuild when 
some stuff  need to be updated ;
- No in my service way, where we have to reduce human skills consumption 
first, and we don't care about consuming some build cpu time or local 
network bandwith for that. So we customized a php5 packages which 
actually stick to our needs. Notice that with all the pecl and pear 
features I've had, I would  have to maintain more than 50 different spec 
files instead of one.

>> One thing I forgot, our php rpm is hardened with the suhosin patch.
>> You can look at the spec file here :
>> http://redhat.sorbonne.fr/CentOS-5/siris/SPECS/php5.spec
> why are you building all the php-<feature> stuff into the main spec ? 

Apart from the easy spec file maintenance fact, I don't benefit of a 
high quality assurance build process like the CentOS one. So I like the 
idea of having all my php-<feature> built in a single pass, especially 
when I update php version from php.net.


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