[CentOS-devel] CentOS 5.4 Status

Thu Oct 15 00:18:01 UTC 2009
Ed Helwig <ehelwig at tr3-animations.com>

Mr. Tener,

I have had the opportunity to work with Russ for at least the past
twelve or so years.  My first introduction to Linux was RH 4.2, and
Russ gave me the disks.  His contributions over the years go well
beyond the role of project leader or "rouge member".  Try rpm.org.

So to be direct, I would not only want to work with Russ, but have
chosen to work with him over the last decade.  I chose to take his
advice, and actively contribute to the open source community.  I
am a Foundation member and contributing developer to the
Blender Project since 2002.

I am glad Russ told me to go read the man page when I had my
first question.  It is a piece of advice that has served me well.

Ed Helwig
Chief Warrant Officer 3 (Ret) , Aviation
US Army

On Oct 14, 2009, at 6:18 PM, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote:

> Mr. Singh,
>    Well, if I were going to add details as to what I could do to  
> help the
> build effort, how would I do that intelligently when no one is  
> willing to
> give a status as to where the build effort is in terms of the project
> milestones or what resources are currently under demand by the  
> project?
>    I am going to tell you straight away, having read Russ' comments,  
> I am
> in no way interested to work with him, and it appears he must be one  
> of the
> development team leaders. During my work day I get paid to deal with  
> unhappy
> people all day long, I am loath to volunteer to do it for free in my  
> spare
> time after hours. If you and the development team want to attract more
> assistance from people, take note that pissing people off when they  
> ask the
> status of a project is not the manner by which to ascend along that  
> path.
>    In the mean time, I shall await Russ' apology in precedence to  
> making a
> decision as to what resources (monetary, computer related, or  
> personal time)
> I have available in pursuance of furthering the effort at hand. If  
> in fact
> Russ is not really one of the project leaders, and is just a "rouge  
> member",
> do let me know that too.
>    One last note, I might be the sort of person to go and say these  
> things
> point blank, as I am a more direct person, but I imagine that there  
> are
> people perhaps on this list who read Russ' comments and are thinking  
> to
> themselves, "WOW...pffft...I am just going to stick to reading this  
> list,
> who would want to work with this guy?...."
>    Have a most wonderful and blessed day.
> V/R,
> Stuart
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:43:14 +0100
> From: Karanbir Singh <mail-lists at karan.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 5.4 Status
> To: "The CentOS developers mailing list." <centos-devel at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <4AD5AB42.7080608 at karan.org>
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> On 10/14/2009 07:10 AM, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote:
>>     Thank you for your reply, it was the sort of response I was  
>> curious to
>> hear.
> Just want to point out that I dont entirely disagree with Russ's post,
> its usually a 'nice' thing to also add details on what you might be  
> able
> to offer to the build effort :)
> - KB
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