On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Marcus Moeller wrote: > open and transparent QA process. I personally don't see any good > reason why QA access should not be granted to ppl willing to help out. My thoughts. I anticipate that an open QA process would: - generate bug reports to the main mailing list, (wrong place) causing reply firestorm of 'is FOO really broken' and all the echoes that make that list - not produce a true tests, but rather just more 'works here' and more 'me too' echo noise - cause us to have to re-version (bump even more) upstream 'release' values on any package we release to QA, as we will end up with 'testers' of doubious skills demanding hand holding which we will have to give to avoid reputational damage, AND those QA packages WILL leak into the general distribution -- See the problems with the expedited security release so far There are LOTS of reasons not to take on gratutious load -- these are my top of mind obvious ones. If people want to bleed, the NEED TO GO TO FEDORA so the changes flow back down in our future. We are an enterprise rebuild as the core product. Nothing more -- Russ herrold