[CentOS-devel] Missing security updates

Fri Jul 23 01:32:02 UTC 2010
Charlie Brady <charlieb-centos-devel at budge.apana.org.au>

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, R P Herrold wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Charlie Brady wrote:
> > Jeff, with respect, I don't think you are any more capable 
> > of changing the current process from the outside than I am.
> heh -- Jeff has consistently 'played fair' even in the face of 
> libel and provocation for far longer than I can count.  a 
> person following #rpm and engaging in thoughtful and even 
> vapid communication gets courteous and well written replies.

While I can take your word that this is true, I don't see how that is 
relevant here. I'm not accusing him of unfair play (or anything else).

> You know better than this.  Of course he influences already; 
> the build system model I have documented
>  	ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/local/ORC/
> is in part based on my talking with him about 'beehive' and 
> 'Prospector' 
> http://www.owlriver.com/projects/packaging/reproduceable-builds.txt

Jeff's influence is indeed pervasive. But I maintain that he is not able 
to enforce change within the CentOS dev team from the outside. And neither 
am I.

> > It is time for the CentOS team to speak.
> Some choose to not hear the answer  (or perhaps not liked it) 
> when I have spoken

I'm not sure whether you are being disingenuous here.