On Nov 26, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > > So it is either abrt without reporting, no abrt, or b.c.o running on a > bugzilla instance, afaics. > There are fallacies in reaching the conclusion that those are the only possible outcomes. The argument chain that leads to those alternative resolutions goes something like this: Q: Are segfault's (tracked by ABRT) bugs? A: Almost certainly. Q: And where do bug reports get filed go ... ? A: In a bugzilla! duh! which leads to a certain narrow perspective and Q.E.D conclusion: 1) rip ABRT out of CentOS 2) cripple ABRT or gimp it up with "no reporting" 3) set up a b.c.o instance Bugzilla is almost certainly a reasonable end-point for ABRT if you have gazillions of paid employees who are paid (as part of a "service" model) to track store-bought product defects and paying customer complaints. But is that the right model for CentOS? Hardly imho ... The better model is what is being done with kernel.org bugs (which I claim was studied when ABRT was written. I'm sure there were other implementations at M$ and with Apple radar blips too). With kernel.org, bugs are tracked as a software devel process metric, not as a paid wage slave performance indicator. SO I suggest that you should look at other alternative end-points for ABRT automated segfault/bug end-points, and view as a objective distro "process" metric to prioritize scarce resources, not track, bug reports. No user id's needed is just one of many benefits. Unless you really like sipping from a bugzilla fire hose, with everyone 2nd and 3rd guessing whatever solution you attempted to solve a reported problem. There are hair shorts and strait jackets for those who really MUSTHAVE their nagware to Get Things Done! JMHO, YMMV, everyone's does, yadda, yadda. hth 73 de Jeff