On 07/11/2011 09:26 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: > unsupported method upstream, right. > working in upstream, right. > working in centos, not. I disagree. Let me explain why that is : RHEL and CentOS address very different userbases. Looking through the sort of posts that make it to the different mailing lists would make this quite clear. RHEL will work through support stuff with people, its not that simple on CentOS. When you say this 'it works upstream', you are changing the definition of what 'it' might be in comparision to what the definition of 'it' is in regards to CentOS. To me, 'it' amounts to being able to upgrade from C5 to C6 or EL5 to EL6, without a wipe+reinstall. And 'it' works in just about exactly the same way on CentOS as on RHEL - you need to custom build rpm, its dep chain. then get py26 in place, with yum that uses that py26 ( on c5 ), then go through 2 reboot cycles in order to make the process work. At the second boot stage, you need the centos-release rpm to be replaced. Also important at this stage is that having a $releasever at '5' does not break your machine, so a manual choice being needed to come into effect for $releasecer to move to '6' isnt a bad thing, I'd even venture a bit closer to the edge and say its a 'feature'. the fact that it breaks the upgradeany install isnt ideal. Its not a 'supported' mechanism, but then not much is 'supported' within the centos ecosystem either; and having the flexibility to break your stuff in ways you find interesting is also a feature in CentOS :) I agree with Russ on that lets document this for now, and try to see how we can resolve the case moving forward ( 6.1 isnt far! ); exactly what the fix might be is still open to debate a bit. Reintroducting an EPOC should, please please, be the last resort. > the centos is compatible with upstream? no. > is it a bug? yes. > so it is a fud? no it was simple a bug report. Did you then file it as a bug report ? And did you either add something to the RNotes in the wiki ( or propose text that should be added in ? ) - KB : please do correct me if that seems unreasonable.