On 01/10/2014 08:09 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman <lars at redhat.com> wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 05:59:14PM +0200, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: >>>> see more CentOS and less Debian in that space, as the default CentOS >>>> Apache httpd configs are a lot saner. ;-) >>> but the enable/disable vhosts in ubuntu is much easier >> Increasingly off topic here, but seriously, *this*. > (While still off topic) So, who can stop Ubuntu's outrageous growth? > > http://w3techs.com/technologies/history_details/os-linux/all/q As long as on arm - despite Hansg's efforts, fedora is nothing but a toy ( I might be mistaken but NO board that I know of has proper graphics support in Fedora ), - centos does not exist (redsleeve tries its best but unless you know from the start what you were looking for you need to look hard for it in order to find references), - debian (cubian, cubieez ) sticks with old packages, ubuntu and derivatives (linaro being the most prominent example but xubuntu, mint, voyager and others exist ) will rule . Unless arch or gentoo come strongly from behind, which I sincerely doubt ( and hope that will not happen) and in the web-hosting business, debian and ubuntu erode strongly the former centos/RHEL market. maybe introduction of SCL will change something but I doubt. people look at the versions, they see that there is no straight forward support for Shiny.New.2015 and look somewhere else. Very very few analyze if a) they really need that new version b) if that version can be used in RHEL/CentOS. Leaving aside that there is also a logic in "I do not need the shiny version now but I might need tomorrow. Why bother installing centos and an old version when I can go straight to Ubuntu and the new one?" but, last but not least .. are we really in a competition ? I sincerely do not care [too] much which distro (or even unix flavor) is used as long as a) it's opensource and b) allows me to preserve my sanity while doing maintenance ( there are 2-3 distros which do not qualify ) wolfy "pfsense + carp or not ?"