[CentOS-devel] Wider conversation around process and delivery for the Cloud SIG

Mon Jan 27 02:49:38 UTC 2014
Robyn Bergeron <rbergero at redhat.com>

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karanbir Singh" <mail-lists at karan.org>
> To: centos-devel at centos.org
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:59:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] Wider conversation around process and delivery for the Cloud SIG
> On 01/25/2014 03:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 04:33:40PM +0000, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> >>   - to deliver RDO to date, we've been getting by using Fedora
> >>     infrastructure but it would probably be a big improvement if we
> >>     could switch over to CentOS infrastructure - e.g. koji, git, yum
> >>     repos, etc.
> > 
> > Can you explain in a little detail why that would be a big improvement? Are
> > there areas where Fedora could do things in a way which would be better for
> > you?
> > 
> isnt RDO mostly consumed on CentOS / EL instead of on Fedora ?

I would say "probably" - though the cheerleader inside me is certain, deep down to my blue pom-poms, that there are some consuming on Fedora as well :)

I think Matt's question is going towards determining if this is a "workflow" thing - which could perhaps be intertwined with where RDO is mostly consumed - or if there are actual, technical issues with Fedora's infrastructure/build system (is it too slow? too bureaucratic? something else) that are of concern, since those are good things for Fedora folks to know.

I think, at least in theory (I know someone will correct me if I'm totally wrong here) - Fedora's ability to actually "deliver RDO" shouldn't differentiate greatly from CentOS's, given that we largely use the same tools, we can do EPEL builds for EL5/6/7, etc. Where this starts to diverge is with the new magic that the CentOS Cloud SIG is working on; if there is essentially a Cloudified EL 6/7, with different bits in it than what is standard in EL 6, and dependencies that are quite possibly newer than what is in EPEL -- that is, for the moment anyway :D, something that Fedora can't really *build for* (build against?). So that might make sense. Or it could be something else. 
I guess my question would be - assuming that any of what I guessed at in the previous paragraph is in line with Mark's thinking - would the plan then be to simply build RDO for Fedora and CentOS/EL in each of their respective infrastructure homes? (I am assuming there is not a way to build for Fedora w/in CentOS infra, and keep those things in a CentOS repo, that I am woefully ignorant of... )


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