[CentOS-devel] CentOS Interoperability SIG

Wed Jan 29 11:39:15 UTC 2014
Karanbir Singh <mail-lists at karan.org>

On 01/29/2014 06:08 AM, Clint Savage wrote:
> I don't think the intent here is to rebuild the rebuilt code. It is to
> rebuild the upstream source in a similar way to the CentOS process. It
> might mean the source is distributed differently than its current state,
> but it should still be distributed.

pointing to the redhat shipped faq: git.centos.org -> canonical source
of public source release. There will be no ftp.redhat.com in the coming
weeks/months; the first people will see source would be as a downstream
of centos.

hence my question on why you want to work away from this process and
limit yourself by design, rather than work within and for the process.

> The SIGs rely on a process managed by CentOS. Having that process
> reviewed and improved by an outside entity would seem like an ideal way
> to audit code, improve processes and be as open as possible. These
> things seem like benefits. I'm not sure why you would not want to have
> this in place.

vendorisation and commercialisation within silo's - isnt that what we
are trying to get away from ? so why go down the route of encouraging it
by creating the -arguabally- whacked idea that communities are not just
people working towards a goal ? Johnny mentioned it in his post as well,
using different words, but let me re-iterate that ; given that we all
might want to work towards the same goal, why not be a part of that
process. I still dont see any value in people spending time on a process
that effectively aims to find syntax errors in bash scripts. hopefully,
there wont be any - since those bash scripts contribute to the code that
gets shipped out.

Look it at another, more tangiable way: why fork a test harness when the
harness and payload are easily contributed into, open ended.

> Agreed. And I'm excited to see it. As I said to Jim above, we are
> excited to help in any way we can and would love to continue this
> discussion toward something that benefits both the CentOS community and
> ours.

Then step up, be a part of the process. help remove the US v/s THEM
arguements. Surely being in a place where you can submit patches and fix
issues > standing on the sidelines putting red cross's in the gutter
column of git blames.

I acknowledge that I am widely trivialising the effort you propose, but
I do so in order to highlight the fact that you dont need to do this as
an outside entity or a SIG - just work with the scope of baseline content.

Karanbir Singh
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