On 01/15/2014 02:47 PM, Jim Perrin wrote: > We'll never be able to make everyone happy or resolve all the issues. If > we're able to provide something that works well for the majority of end > users and makes project life easier for the builders/developers, I'll > consider that a win. There is no need to over complicate this. Majority will be happy to have "Enabled=" and "Priority=x" in CentOS-Base.repo (and other repo's), and to define priority values for Tier1, Tier2, Tier3 with enough space in-between for 3rd party repositories to nest them selves where they want. Additional consensus between 3rd party repository maintainers to agree on priority values and which repos should be Enabled by default would be nice, but it is not necessary because the fact that newbies do not have to mess with CentOS-Base.repo and 3rd party repos for default instalation of CentOS + 3rd party will dramatically boost usability to newbies who want stable Linux, even if CentOS Project does not provide Installation media with EPEL and/or ElRepo kmods. So far, every newbie that installs CentOS on Laptop (and Desktop/Workstation) and needs additional drivers has to go through hell of manual downloading and instalation of release packages, then manual installation of kmods for their wireless/ethernet to work. And so does person who they contact for help. Not to mention if package they need is in tier 2 or 3. But with priorities already set, task is 90% done, no messing around with .repo files, just fire and forget. I know that I am pushing hard for this, but that is because I have been waiting this opportunity for several years, and if priority reform is not done, then it will be epic fail in my book for wider adoption of CentOS in non-server environments. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant