[CentOS-devel] DVD split media

On 06/26/2014 05:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> On 06/26/2014 11:53 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
>> On 06/27/2014 12:01 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>>> On 06/26/2014 07:02 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
>>>> On 06/26/2014 01:02 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> As in CentOS-6, I think we should skip the CD isos; there is little
>>>>> point in that ( but we should do the minimal ISO, lets keep conversation
>>>>> about that on its own thread ).
>>>> I support that. CDs should be phased out, at least as main distribution
>>>> media. IF there is demand for that, maybe create them and distribute via
>>>> torrent. But I would not clobber the mirrors with CD-sized ISO images
>>>> for the main distro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The main distro is just a hint over 6.6GB, that means we cant really put
>>>>> all the stuff into a single DVD[1]; so we need to do the splits. In the
>>>>> past, we've done multiple installs making sure that all the installable
>>>>> components from the installer's groups, in english atleast, are all on
>>>>> DVD#1 and the rest can goto DVD#2. I suspect that strategy will work
>>>>> here as well, and does someone want to give it a shot and come up with a
>>>>> list of rpms that are installable via the installer.
>>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>> [1]: maybe we should do a single large 6.6GB ISO as well, and have it
>>>>> available only on torrents, for people who might want or have access to
>>>>> that large format media, or people who just want a copy of the primary
>>>>> repo without using rsync. Thoughts ?
>>>> +1 for distributing a single large ISO. A lot of people install from USB
>>>> sticks and 8GBs ones have become more like a norm than a rarity
>>>> nowadays. And a 4.7GB iso would not fit on a 4GB stick anyway so a 8GB
>>>> one would be needed. Which means that the effort for whoever wants to
>>>> install from a stick would not be "much" ( for a lax definition of much
>>>> :)  ) higher to download a 6.6 GB image instead of  a 4.7GB one. I for
>>>> one would grab the larger one. ... I still have the CentOS 5.7 iso on my
>>>> phone's SD Card and install from it from time to time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Although you are right for people with fast internet, there are still
>>> thousands of people in undeveloped countries that have pay-by-MB
>>> internet, some even only dial-up lines.
>>>
>>> So I suggest those CD ISO's to be built, no need to build them in
>>> prime-time download frenzy, but they should exist, even if only on some
>>> mirrors or in vault (small bandwidth users can not clog the server).
>> They'd still need to download a bunch of CD images in order to be able 
>> to do an install. And at this point they'd rather get the minimal.iso 
>> and then use yum to add whatever they need. yum groupinstall <bunch of 
>> desktop related groups> will not be more painful than downloading the isos.
>>
> I was more referring to CD1, mostly enough to install Desktop/Server and
> then update/add when they have internet connection.
>
> There was a fair number of people who would pay their "ISP" (in a broad
> sense of the word) or a friend/company, and then some have slow direct
> internet connection and others manually download rpm's and install them
> off-line.
>
> Imagine installing from minimal ISO and then wait hours on dialup to
> install.
>
> So paying for CD ISO (less money) to be able to install full desktop,
> and then using slow internet connection for the rest.
>


We will also have a the following:

1.  Minimal Install <something>  (the something depends on the size when
done, DVD or CD, depending on > or <  700MB)  - This will be defined as
matching a Minimal ISO from the DVD

2.  Network Install - the boot.iso from the images directory right now

3.  Micro Install - this will be a pared down version of the Minimal
Install if people want it

Any of those that end up less than 700 MB will be on a CD.

However, what we are talking about here is not a subset install, but the
full distro install.  And that is what we are talking about not also
producing and distributing.  It would likely be 10-15 CDs full of
stuff.  I don't see a need for that format.  Minimal, Network, maybe
Micro and 2-3 DVD's for full tree.

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