On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jim Perrin <jperrin at centos.org> wrote: > > For lazy users who refuse to read or learn... I have very strong, and > very negative opinions of those sorts of people. They leave disaster in > their wake no matter what distro they run. > [...] > I want to see CentOS grow in usage and become much more widely adopted. > That can't happen by ONLY doing the same things we've done for the last > decade. > I think for the latter statement to happen, you may need to embrace users who want things to work as installed - to a certain extent anyway. If distros like SMEserver and ClearOS (where the common services work out of the box with task-oriented web administration) turn into SIGs, it may help. Likewise for any other special-purpose respins that reduce the setup work and knowledge needed to get a working configuration. The base OS as a toolbox is great for people who want to build something new, but not so much for those who just want to run some already-included services without caring a lot about the implementation details. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com