Hi, On 06/18/2014 06:02 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > With the release of CentOS 7 just around the corner, have the board > members made a decision? No we havent, its something we've been iterating over but there is no decision made at this point. > We have seen an overwhelming number of responses from the community > members. Many of them are long time contributors who do not mind > "having late-night > coffee-fueled work sessions after the family's gone to bed". > > Now the world is watching (between the FIFA games) how the board would > handle the situation in which their idea/plan does not get support > from the community. So, personally - I think the community feedback was great, how badly we communcated the idea was apareny and clear for everyone to see. And I personally feel that a large chunk of the response was down to fear of change in areas that we had never even imaged were going to change. I'm also assuming that my last email to this thread cleared all the technical issues that people had brought up, if there are still some outstanding now is a great time for people to raise those. So what it really boils down to is communication, and not technical reasons as to why there is resistance to this change. And if we are able to find a clear / clean way to communicate the relationship - something that the community at large agree's to, then we have a plan going forward. I seem to be saying this a lot, but getting better at what we do should never really be optional - and I definitely feel that the numbering change allows us to do just that. We just need to find a way to to communicate and overcome the emotional resitance to change. CentOS Linux is going to always retain RHEL mapping for 1:1 rebuild, as a best effort - and now more open and more visible than before. Now, reparse the thread with that statement in mind and you will find that the biggest resistance goes away completely. How can we make it even more aparent as to what we are trying to do ? I will aim to deliver two sets of tree's today to buildlogs.centos.org, one that targets a 7.0 release tag and another one that does 7.1406, lets see if we can find, in using the 7.1406 metrics on what breaks and how. We can then work backwards to fix the issues, and move the conversation forward. <plug>Also, I've been working flat out 15hrs/day for the last 4 weeks to get us here - if anyone was hoping to come along and join the contributor path, please dont hold back :) </plug> - KB -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc