On 03/04/2014 01:04 PM, Masoud Sharbiani wrote: > Hi Johnny, > > Are the build systems you guys are working on available to the public? > Checked in somewhere we can check out and/or potentially contribute to? > cheers, > Masoud > They will be when they're ready, yes. Until then, you can see the progression for some of the build system scripts and configs at https://git.centos.org, or https://github.com/CentOS You can contribute to the scripts/configs currently. Once the build system is up, contributions to packages will come via the SIG groups (the core builds don't change, so no contribution accepted there). > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > >> On 03/03/2014 08:23 AM, Tom McManus wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Apologies if this topic is covered elsewhere. Will CentOS wait for the >>> release of RHEL7 or will it start work on betas >> >> The CentOS team is building the Beta packages so that we have the >> packages available for future use, can find any issues building them, >> and look for branding issues, etc. ... however we feel that it is >> counterproductive to release anything to the public. >> >> The reasons are: >> >> 1. RHEL 7 Beta is free to download and anyone who wants to get it can >> do so. The CentOS team highly recommends any interested parties download >> and test RHEL 7 Beta following Red Hat's announcement and guidelines. >> >> 2. RHEL 7 beta is "beta quality" and Red Hat wants the public to >> download and test it and provide feedback to get issues fixed before the >> actually RHEL 7.0 GA release. If you want to make CentOS-7 better, >> download and test RHEL-7 Beta and provide feedback to Red Hat to fix as >> many issues as possible before they release. >> >> 3. The CentOS team feels that adding potential problems from our >> building of packages that may not be present in the released RHEL 7 Beta >> is counterproductive and possibly dilutes the upstream beta process. >> >> 4. The CentOS team does not want to act as the middle man to the actual >> reporting of incidents that might happen if we release a rebuild of RHEL >> 7 Beta. That is, people report things to us about our beta that should >> have instead been reported to Red Hat and those issues somehow get lost >> in the process. >> >> ===== >> >> So, while we are not planning to release a rebuild of the Beta's at this >> time, we will be building and saving beta packages and creating our >> build processes/system to ensure we can get CentOS-7.0 built and >> released quickly. Any packages we get built during these processes that >> do not change are things we don't have to build later. Any problems we >> solve, even for packages that change during the beta process, may be >> relevant to newer packages that come out in the beta process, so will >> still likely help us. >> >> I can not stress it enough ... CentOS users who want to help should >> download and test the RHEL 7 Betas and provide feedback for any problems >> to Red Hat so CentOS-7.0 can happen faster and be better quality when we >> release it. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS-devel mailing list >> CentOS-devel at centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > -- Jim Perrin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org twitter: @BitIntegrity | GPG Key: FA09AD77