[CentOS-devel] RHEL 7 beta 2?

Tue Mar 4 20:06:55 UTC 2014
Jim Perrin <jperrin at centos.org>

On 03/04/2014 01:04 PM, Masoud Sharbiani wrote:
> Hi Johnny,
> Are the build systems you guys are working on available to the public?
> Checked in somewhere we can check out and/or potentially contribute to?
> cheers,
> Masoud

They will be when they're ready, yes. Until then, you can see the
progression for some of the build system scripts and configs at
https://git.centos.org, or https://github.com/CentOS

You can contribute to the scripts/configs currently. Once the build
system is up, contributions to packages will come via the SIG groups
(the core builds don't change, so no contribution accepted there).

> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote:
>> On 03/03/2014 08:23 AM, Tom McManus wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Apologies if this topic is covered elsewhere. Will CentOS wait for the
>>> release of RHEL7 or will it start work on betas
>> The CentOS team is building the Beta packages so that we have the
>> packages available for future use, can find any issues building them,
>> and look for branding issues, etc. ... however we feel that it is
>> counterproductive to release anything to the public.
>> The reasons are:
>> 1.  RHEL 7 Beta is free to download and anyone who wants to get it can
>> do so. The CentOS team highly recommends any interested parties download
>> and test RHEL 7 Beta following Red Hat's announcement and guidelines.
>> 2.  RHEL 7 beta is "beta quality" and Red Hat wants the public to
>> download and test it and provide feedback to get issues fixed before the
>> actually RHEL 7.0 GA release.  If you want to make CentOS-7 better,
>> download and test RHEL-7 Beta and provide feedback to Red Hat to fix as
>> many issues as possible before they release.
>> 3.  The CentOS team feels that adding potential problems from our
>> building of packages that may not be present in the released RHEL 7 Beta
>> is counterproductive and possibly dilutes the upstream beta process.
>> 4.  The CentOS team does not want to act as the middle man to the actual
>> reporting of incidents that might happen if we release a rebuild of RHEL
>> 7 Beta. That is, people report things to us about our beta that should
>> have instead been reported to Red Hat and those issues somehow get lost
>> in the process.
>> =====
>> So, while we are not planning to release a rebuild of the Beta's at this
>> time, we will be building and saving beta packages and creating our
>> build processes/system to ensure we can get CentOS-7.0 built and
>> released quickly.  Any packages we get built during these processes that
>> do not change are things we don't have to build later.  Any problems we
>> solve, even for packages that change during the beta process, may be
>> relevant to newer packages that come out in the beta process, so will
>> still likely help us.
>> I can not stress it enough ... CentOS users who want to help should
>> download and test the RHEL 7 Betas and provide feedback for any problems
>> to Red Hat so CentOS-7.0 can happen faster and be better quality when we
>> release it.
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