RH seems, in their wisdom, to have settled on Gnome3 or KDE. As far as I can see, they aren't offering any other desktop environments. I can't stand Gnome3, and don't care a whole lot for KDE 4.x, though it doesn't irritate me the way Gnome 3 does. Given the new relationship between RH and Centos, are their any new possibilities of including (or offering as extras) things like Mate or Cinnamon? Or will I need to roll my own (or bring 'em in from Fedora) ?? Thanks to the whole Centos team for the really good distribution. I hope to be with you for many more years, if I can. -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good. ----------------------------- Proverbs 15:3 (niv) -----------------------------