On 03/13/2014 10:44 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:45:33PM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: >> On 03/07/2014 09:57 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> Another issue is that Gnome3 needs 3D and does not work with x2go (and >>> probably freenx/nx if that is going to be packaged). And I almost >>> never work directly at a console. KDE seems to mostly work, but it >>> is annoying to have to switch after all these years of RedHat pushing >>> GNOME. >> To clear something up, IIRC 7 uses GNOME Classic - not stock GNOME 3 - >> as its default, which does *not* require 3D. >> >> In the default desktop, GNOME looks a lot like GNOME 2x. >> >> This isn't to say we shouldn't package Mate or Xfce or any additional >> desktops for CentOS - but it'd be good to make sure people are moving >> away from the defaults as an informed choice. > GNOME Classic is a set of extensions on top of GNOME 3. However, AIUI > GNOME 3 doesn't require 3D hardware because there is an llvmpipe > backend that will do software rendering on machines without capable > hardware. Performance may be encumbered in that case with a slower > CPU, but should still work. > > And this llvmpipe implementation does not work properly. Even on machines with good GPU's Gnome 3 refuses to use them and defaults many times to using llvmpipe which just totally kills performance.