[CentOS-devel] The Branding Hunt. Ed. 7

Mon May 19 08:23:38 UTC 2014
Bojtos Péter <ptr at ulx.hu>

Dear All, 

Can't we use the packagelist from RHEL 6 as an initial list of packages, which need to be "re-branded"? 

Peter 

----- Eredeti üzenet -----

> Feladó: "Kay Williams" <kay at deployproject.org>
> Címzett: "The CentOS developers mailing list." <centos-devel at centos.org>
> Elküldött üzenetek: Hétfő, 2014. Május 19. 0:29:48
> Tárgy: Re: [CentOS-devel] The Branding Hunt. Ed. 7

> See comments at the end...

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: centos-devel-bounces at centos.org [mailto:centos-devel-
> > bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Hughes
> > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:30 AM
> > To: centos-devel at centos.org
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] The Branding Hunt. Ed. 7
> >
> > On 05/14/2014 03:29 PM, Kay Williams wrote:
> > > Is there information somewhere on what has been done in the past,
> > what
> > > worked well, what didn't, etc?
> > >
> > > Would be nice if changes could be centralized in some way so that
> > > folks wanting to make custom branded distros based on CentOS could
> > leverage.
> >
> > Well, the goal is to change the minimal amount of things possible to
> > meet both the requirements to redistribute the software (from the Red
> > Hat trademark perspective) ... and also to meet the intent of the
> > requirement.
> >
> > Here is the document:
> >
> > http://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/corp/RH-3573_284204_TM_Gd.pdf
> >
> > Specifically we are looking at page 5 under the heading, "Publishing
> > and Marketing Red Hat Linux or Red Hat Enterprise Linux Software That
> > Has Been Modified"
> >
> > The exact rules are that "RedHat-Logos" and "Anaconda-Images" need to
> > be changed. I have done this in a new centos-logos package that will
> > be provided for review on git.centos.org. With that we meet the actual
> > requirement of the PDF.
> >
> > But the intent is also that if something claims to be Red Hat
> > Enterprise Linux, we should change it. Also, if the logo appears in
> > things other than documentation within the distro we should change it.
> >
> > For example, if something says to submit a bug report to
> > bugzilla.redhat.com, we would want to instead say bugs.centos.org, so
> > we want to change this.
> >
> > But, if something is there because of copyright or to designate credit
> > for work performed then we do not want to change it ... so, as an
> > example, the About section of a LibreOffice app says: "This release
> > was supplied by Red Hat, Inc." That is a true statement and does not
> > need to be changed .. if it said "Created for Red Hat Enterprise Linux"
> > or something similar, we would change the RPM to take that out.
> >
> > The SRPMs that we currently change will either start with the name
> > centos, or have a .centos. in the name (the one exception being the
> > kernel package .. we change it and we do not change the name so 3rd
> > Party drivers supplied for booting the kernel will work with both the
> > Red Hat and CentOS kernels.
> >
> > We also list the modified SRPMs in our release notes, so for the
> > CentOS-6.5 release here is the list:
> >
> > http://bit.ly/1ljZd5I
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Johnny Hughes
> >

> Hi Johnny, this all makes sense.

> Is the thinking for centos7, then, to "assign out" chunks of packages to
> reviewers/hunters, who when then look at sources for text/logos that should
> be changed?

> Would you want the reviewers to sign off for packages reviewed? How many
> packages would be typical for a reviewer to handle in a volunteer-friendly
> amount of time? How would branding hunting happen on an ongoing basis as new
> packages are added?

> This could be a pretty huge effort. And a little deflating for reviewers? A
> bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. Perhaps some part could be
> automated, say an initial pass over sources looking for variants of the text
> "Red Hat" in text or file names, and then reviewers could look at just those
> packages?

> I can definitely contribute some hours to the effort. Just trying to
> understand where/how to help and how people's time can be used wisely.

> Thanks,
> Kay

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