[CentOS-devel] Question about generating a spin of CentOS 7

Johnny Hughes johnny at centos.org
Fri Oct 31 15:10:49 UTC 2014

On 10/31/2014 10:00 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Karanbir Singh <mail-lists at karan.org> wrote:
>> On 10/31/2014 02:35 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>>> Also, worth noting that if you are building the entire installer and
>>>> environment, you should not be calling your end result 'CentOS', you've
>>>> effectively built a fork of CentOS.
>>> That's, ummm, interesting... when the end result is going to be
>>> exactly the same as a stock install plus some other stuff and the only
>>> difference is the automation of adding the other stuff.   Do the rest
>>> of us have to rename our systems too?
>> you might want to reread what I wrote and try parsing it ....
> It is not at all clear how that maps into reality.  I install a lot of
> different ways, including clonezilla, ReaR, and cloning VM images.
>> if you rebuild the installer, its not an official CentOS build, hasent
>> been tested or released as one;
>> adding a kickstart and rebuilding the iso with mkisofs does not rebuild
>> the installer; but you know that already.
> OK. so how does ReaR or clonezilla fit into that scheme?  ReaR builds
> its own boot iso with the system tools, Clonezilla boots with
> something else entirely.   Cloning a VMware image does some of its own
> magic tweaks.  But the result of all of these things, including a
> specifically rebuilt iso and installer may be a copy of a perfectly
> stock system - the same thing you would have if you did an install
> step first, then the customizations.   The latter is becoming my
> preferred approach but I always have network access.   I can see
> situations where a self-contained one-step install would be better.
> Maybe the minimal install build could look for a 2nd partition on the
> iso or a mounted usb for a continuation script.

Yes, that is called a kickstart and anaconda is designed specifically to
allow you to pass one in .. either locally or on the web, etc.  You
original install and be additive.

You can do whatever you want on YOUR OWN systems and call it whatever
you want.  Anything you are smart enough to do.

If you tried to redistribute that as CentOS (your clonezilla images, for
exampel), and say that it is official CentOS, well it is not.  Official
CentOS is in the form that we release it, not some other form.
Especially not some other form where things are modified.

You can't modify Ubuntu or Debian or OpenSUSE either, and then
distribute it and call it either of those things either.  This is why
Linux Mint is not Ubuntu and Ubuntu is not Debian ... but Linux mint is
'based on Ubuntu' and Ubyntu is 'based on Debain'.  This is not rocket

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