[CentOS-devel] Xfce for CentOS group

On 2 February 2015 at 06:07, Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote:

> On 02/01/2015 04:23 PM, Anders F Björklund wrote:
> >> Since the Alternative Desktop SIG didn't happen, we thought we would
> >> make a more focused effort and improve the Xfce desktop environment
> >> experience on CentOS. That might end up being a dedicated CentOS SIG,
> >> or just a couple of improvements to the existing packages from EPEL.
> >>
> >> Once upon a time, or more precisely: back in the CentOS 5.0 days,
> >> Xfce 4.4 was available in Extras and it was a pretty simple install
> >> that just worked "out of the box". Now, there's the newer versions
> >> available via EPEL - but the experience is nowhere near painless...
> >
> > Apparently there is no need for such a SIG, since Fedora already has
> > the Xfce and EPEL groups at this time and there is no need to recreate
> > the packages somewhere else (that already exist in Fedora and EPEL).
> > So the remaining issues to be improved upon, should go there instead.
> >
> > Right now most of the development happens in a COPR, and there's no
> > official testing process which means it's up to each user to test it.
> > See for instance https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144025
> > But I haven't filed bugs/paperwork for the issues I mentioned earlier.
> >
> >> Going to try to meet up with other interested parties during FOSDEM,
> >> to see if we can't improve upon that and at least fix the low hanging
> >> issues. And get some better Xfce testing and feedback going, as well.
> >> A more long-term goal is make it an alternative to GNOME (Workstation).
> >
> >> If you are interested in helping out with testing, packaging or
> >> developing (backporting, fixing the upstream issues, and so on)
> >> then please say so. I'll try to have some more detailed lists and
> >> updated packages with me, for the FOSDEM meetup in the weekend...
> >
> > We will continue with our work, and contribute patches to the upstreams.
> > This includes LightDM for the display manager, using Clearlooks/Adwaita
> > theme for GTK+ and GNOME icon theme and GNOME background (default.jpg) -
> > instead of the current Xfce (old, deprecated) or Fedora themes used now.
> >
> > Once it is done, and if there is enough interest, it would be possible
> > for CentOS to work with EPEL in providing a "spin" with Xfce enabled...
> > Until that time has come, the user will have to continue to do a Base
> > installation (with X11) and then add the Xfce yum group from EPEL to it.
> >
> >
> > So there won't be any "Xfce for CentOS group". Back to lurking mode. :-)
> > Hi to everyone I met at FOSDEM, too bad I missed the meeting and dinner.
>
> I am all for this effort .. but who is going to monitor the upstream and
> back port security issues and the rest.
>
> Just blindly compiling old Fedora RPMs is not going to be helpful if it
> is insecure.
>
>
>
The Fedora group watches upstream so I would say that combining there would
be the best method. If someone already has a copr for XFCE for EL5,6,7 that
is cool but if not I can set one up and if people feed me the fixes needed
I can get a unified updated version for those releases.



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Stephen J Smoogen.
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