[CentOS-devel] Congratulations for selection in GSOC-2015

Karsten Wade

kwade at redhat.com
Mon Mar 23 15:57:35 UTC 2015

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On 03/23/2015 04:45 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all, do you have a process in mind for selecting GSoC
> applicants?

I don't think the process varies by that much project to project, this
is what I've used and seen in the past:

1. Mentors work directly in public to answer all questions in advance
and during the proposal process. Any new info can be carried in to the
relevant Idea page.

2. Students begin writing application proposals in the Melange tool.

3. /All/ mentors read through at least the proposals related to the
idea they are mentoring for, and are encouraged to read through all
the proposals in general.

4. Before the application deadline, mentors make suggestions and
requests of students to improve the application proposal.

5. After the application deadline, mentors continue to work with
students to improve and polish the application.

6. During that process it often becomes obvious which students have a
chance of doing the work. The proposal process is a miniature
experience similar to the whole GSoC process -- students have to learn
to ask smart questions, turn those in to a work product, and interact
positively with the mentors.

7. There is a step in the timeline where the mentors will deliberate
on the proposals in private. Part of that work is to rank the
proposals in an honest way, which is more important than fighting to
get our own personal proposal to be ranked higher just because we want
it to be accepted.

Our exact end-game process will happen during the last step, with some
of the process creation happening as we go through the earlier steps.

- - Karsten

> Regards Lars
>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 23:28, Karsten Wade <kwade at redhat.com> wrote:
> On 03/10/2015 05:32 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> On 03/09/2015 10:22 PM, Karsten Wade wrote:
>>>>> KB:
>>>>> Can you look at the excerpt below and let me know what you 
>>>>> think?
>>>>> tl;dnr - I'd like to get consensus right away on where
>>>>> we'll be having the technical part of the student/mentor
>>>>> discussions. Some cases it will be in the upstream project
>>>>> space, but I think best practice especially during the
>>>>> coding time of the Summer is to use "the usual channels",
>>>>> i.e. centos-devel and #centos-devel.
>>>> Thought we already closed on this, I agree : tech content,
>>>> about the distro - #centos-devel( irc+list) gsoc specific /
>>>> admin specific - #gsoc (irc+list)
>>>> Having worked with the ideas in prep for this, everyone of
>>>> the efforts is going to have integration points with other
>>>> efforts, and in many cases with ongoing centos development
>>>> activities ( either in infra/ cbs / ci / release stuff ), so
>>>> keeping those conversations to #centos-devel makes the most
>>>> sense.
> Thanks, I wasn't clear on the answer, just wanted to make sure
> before telling all the mentors and students.
> - Karsten
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