[CentOS-devel] CentOS 7 liveCD survey

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On 26/11/15 15:27, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 09:19:23AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 08:40:23AM +0000, Julio Martinez wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> While working on the next 7.1511 Live media, I discovered
>>>> that the size for the actual CentOS 7 LiveCD would be more
>>>> than 700MB.
>>>> 
>>>> It's due to some packages being now bigger and bigger, also
>>>> due to the big Gnome 3.8 -> 3.14 rebase. One obvious package
>>>> I can remove from the packages manifest (which itself is
>>>> consuming more and more space) is Firefox.
>>>> 
>>>> If I remove it from the packages manifest (only for LiveCD,
>>>> it will obviously stay for the LiveGnome and LiveKDE DVD iso
>>>> images), it's then back to 650 MB, so that would mean that
>>>> one would still be able to burn it on a CD.
>>>> 
>>>> But the real question is then : does that even make sense ?
>>>> for each release, we're now fighting with disk space
>>>> constraints, and I'm each time removing packages from that
>>>> LiveCD image. If we remove Firefox itself, that would mean
>>>> that such LiveCD would be useful just for people willing to
>>>> "test" CentOS on their hardware, but that would be a basic
>>>> Gnome desktop. It builds/runs fine, can be installed too
>>>> (like before), but I'd like your opinion about this.
>>>> 
>>> Hello Fabian I have used a couple of times the Live CD to
>>> introduce CentOS to new users which allows them  test how it
>>> feels. Removing Firefox would be a big loss and do those
>>> "demos" would be impossible, well, in those cases probably we'd
>>> have to go to a DVD or USB image. But I see your point of view
>>> coming from a Developers background and it's probably where the
>>> CD is still mostly in use
>> 
>> Is there a decent browser you could include instead of Firefox
>> that is enough smaller to get below 700 MB? possibly Vivaldi ?
> 
> Epiphany or midori might be worth looking into as well.
> 
> Pierre

Well, all those browsers aren't in CentOS 7 , and we're talking about
what is (was ?) the LiveCD. Majority of users seems to think (and I
share that feeling too, also reason why I wanted to discuss that here)
that we should start considering dropping that LiveCD , and just focus
on LiveDVD (LiveGnome, LiveKDE).

Once we have maintainers showing up for alternate desktop environments
(and so built through koji/cbs.centos.org), we can revisit the LiveCD
thing, as a respin :-)

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Fabian Arrotin
The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org
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