On 25 noiembrie 2015 23:38:32 EET, Erick Ocrospoma <zipper1790 at gmail.com> wrote: >On 25 November 2015 at 13:48, Conley, Matthew M CTR GXM < >matthew.m.conley1.ctr at navy.mil> wrote: > >> Ironically, I work in an environment, where a usb stick is forbidden, >but >> that said, I usually try to use the liveDVD's. I only have one system >that >> has only a cd drive (no dvd), but the older releases support it just >fine. >> So that's cool. >> >> >Idem. > >I've seen and worked in places where pendrives (or any removable media) are forbidden, 'Any removable' does not apply to CDs as well ?!! > due to some policy on their datacenters. > >Personally I prefer DVD iso, but let's take in count that CentOS is a >nice >and solid >alternative for production servers, ... on which one would not use a desktop-like but almost minimal distro as the liveCD would be... >it is very used on small companies >that >run commodity hardware (at least in my country happens), I am with you on this one... but do these really need to boot in a Gnome environment from a live image which is barely more than a minimal desktop and has no browser ? As one of the regulars who provide help in #centos I am pretty sure we'd see frustrated users who do not read the docs/release notes and would lose their and our time with questions related to "where is the browser?" >and CDs are still a media option. Once again: for a live image which would be barely more than a minimal Gnome desktop , without a browser ? Remember that for installation purposes there are at least two SMALLER alternatives, the minimal and the network isos. > > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: centos-devel-bounces at centos.org [mailto: >> centos-devel-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Nux! >> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 1:26 PM >> To: The CentOS developers mailing list. >> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 7 liveCD survey >> >> Fabian, >> >> I think the browser is the one component you must not remove from the >Live >> "CD". >> I agree with Manuel, just take as much space as is needed to do a >> reasonable job and make sure dd-ing to USB stick works. Don't publish >> handicaped ISOs. :) >> >> Most people's machines nowadays hardly even have a DVD reader, let >alone a >> CD one; e.g the last laptop I bought (2 years ago) came without such >> optical unit. >> >> Lucian >> >> -- >> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! >> >> Nux! >> www.nux.ro >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Fabian Arrotin" <arrfab at centos.org> >> > To: "The CentOS developers mailing list." <centos-devel at centos.org> >> > Sent: Wednesday, 25 November, 2015 14:42:43 >> > Subject: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 7 liveCD survey >> >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > While working on the next 7.1511 Live media, I discovered that the >> > size for the actual CentOS 7 LiveCD would be more than 700MB. >> > >> > It's due to some packages being now bigger and bigger, also due to >the >> > big Gnome 3.8 -> 3.14 rebase. >> > One obvious package I can remove from the packages manifest (which >> > itself is consuming more and more space) is Firefox. >> > >> > If I remove it from the packages manifest (only for LiveCD, it will >> > obviously stay for the LiveGnome and LiveKDE DVD iso images), it's >> > then back to 650 MB, so that would mean that one would still be >able >> > to burn it on a CD. >> > >> > But the real question is then : does that even make sense ? for >each >> > release, we're now fighting with disk space constraints, and I'm >each >> > time removing packages from that LiveCD image. If we remove Firefox >> > itself, that would mean that such LiveCD would be useful just for >> > people willing to "test" CentOS on their hardware, but that would >be a >> > basic Gnome desktop. >> > >> > It builds/runs fine, can be installed too (like before), but I'd >like >> > your opinion about this. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > - -- >> > Fabian Arrotin >>