-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 26/11/15 15:27, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 09:19:23AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 08:40:23AM +0000, Julio Martinez wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> While working on the next 7.1511 Live media, I discovered >>>> that the size for the actual CentOS 7 LiveCD would be more >>>> than 700MB. >>>> >>>> It's due to some packages being now bigger and bigger, also >>>> due to the big Gnome 3.8 -> 3.14 rebase. One obvious package >>>> I can remove from the packages manifest (which itself is >>>> consuming more and more space) is Firefox. >>>> >>>> If I remove it from the packages manifest (only for LiveCD, >>>> it will obviously stay for the LiveGnome and LiveKDE DVD iso >>>> images), it's then back to 650 MB, so that would mean that >>>> one would still be able to burn it on a CD. >>>> >>>> But the real question is then : does that even make sense ? >>>> for each release, we're now fighting with disk space >>>> constraints, and I'm each time removing packages from that >>>> LiveCD image. If we remove Firefox itself, that would mean >>>> that such LiveCD would be useful just for people willing to >>>> "test" CentOS on their hardware, but that would be a basic >>>> Gnome desktop. It builds/runs fine, can be installed too >>>> (like before), but I'd like your opinion about this. >>>> >>> Hello Fabian I have used a couple of times the Live CD to >>> introduce CentOS to new users which allows them test how it >>> feels. Removing Firefox would be a big loss and do those >>> "demos" would be impossible, well, in those cases probably we'd >>> have to go to a DVD or USB image. But I see your point of view >>> coming from a Developers background and it's probably where the >>> CD is still mostly in use >> >> Is there a decent browser you could include instead of Firefox >> that is enough smaller to get below 700 MB? possibly Vivaldi ? > > Epiphany or midori might be worth looking into as well. > > Pierre Well, all those browsers aren't in CentOS 7 , and we're talking about what is (was ?) the LiveCD. Majority of users seems to think (and I share that feeling too, also reason why I wanted to discuss that here) that we should start considering dropping that LiveCD , and just focus on LiveDVD (LiveGnome, LiveKDE). Once we have maintainers showing up for alternate desktop environments (and so built through koji/cbs.centos.org), we can revisit the LiveCD thing, as a respin :-) - -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlZXGCgACgkQnVkHo1a+xU5axwCfbjD4bIyy69IOK2BdluDl2cBd jIIAnR3WejFdbwJn2u8kfp2SINwuL4na =kM0E -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----