On 30/09/15 20:25, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 09/30/2015 12:17 PM, Ned Slider wrote: >> >> >> On 30/09/15 17:50, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> On 09/29/2015 01:33 PM, Trevor Hemsley wrote: >>>> On 29/09/15 17:35, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>>>> On 09/28/2015 10:58 AM, Carl George wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> There are several "release" packages in the Extras >>>> repository for SIGs and >> third party repositories. >> >> >>>> centos-release-virt-common >> centos-release-openstack >> epel-release >>>>>>>> EPEL is a special case .. as voted on by the CentOS Board. > > >>>> Other ones are SIGs .. which is the way to get a release file into >>>> extras. > > >> Currently there are no guidelines for other third party >>>> repositories to be >> included, so I wrote this document. >> >> >>>> https://wiki.centos.org/CarlGeorge/CATPR >> > > I am certainly open to >>>> discussion .. however, there exists a way to make > this happen. We >>>> start a Hosting SIG and those RPMs get put in there and > built on our CBS. >>>> >>>> That appears to rule out elrepo and IUS ever being allowed to get into >>>> extras which seems like a change of policy from before when it was: >>>> "come up with some criteria by which we can make impartial decisions". >>>> In both cases, they do not target CentOS alone, they exist to serve the >>>> entire EL community. Making them build in CBS would then rule out their >>>> repos being used on RHEL and/or SL. I don't think this is a good idea >>>> either. >>> >>> Well .. RDO, who produces RPMs for RHEL, builds things on CBS. >>> >>> Packages built on CBS could also work on SL. >>> >>> I am NOT saying we can never get other repo release files in >>> CentOS-Extras .. I am just saying that there is an easy way to make it >>> happen right now and that is a SIG. >>> >>> I am only 11% of the CentOS Board .. so I'm sure there is room for >>> movement in many directions on this. But, personally, if we are >>> offering an open program to get things into CentOS, I don't like making >>> exceptions. Everyone thinks THEIR exception is a good one and people >>> want to keep their secret sauce (or build logs, root logs, or build >>> root, etc) private. I would rather everyone work thorough our community >>> setup. I think that is better for CentOS users. They have one place to >>> go to in order to find stuff. If everyone uses it then it is better for >>> everyone in the long run. >>> >>> We are having ppc64 and ppc64le being redone on our hardware and in a >>> way that it can be integrated into CBS and this infrastructure. The >>> people doing that did not necessarily think that was a great idea either >>> .. but I also think that will be better in the long run too. >>> >>> However, by all means, if users and the board want to create this >>> mechanism, this is the place to hash it out. >>> >> >> Johnny, I'm a little confused so could you please just clarify? Are you >> proposing the 3rd party repo release file would be (re)built on the >> CentOS CBS and be included, or are you saying that the complete 3rd >> party repo (all packages) would be rebuilt on CBS? > > I am talking about all the packages. <snip rest of answer> Thanks for the clarification.