On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 9:03 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel at gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 5:05 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 4:47 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Fedora 31 elected to use a new compression algorithm, "zstd", to > > > compress RPM's. The result of this unnecessary optimization is that > > > even commercially supported and long-term-support operating systems, > > > like RHEL 7 and 8, and CentOS 7 and 8, cannot deconstruct leading edge > > > Fedora SRPM's, especially the bleeding edge ones from rawhide. > > > > > > This creates a real backporting problem for people like me who publish > > > internal backports of leading edge components, or who try to publish > > > backports from Fedora to EPEL. It breaks the "mock" toolkit for > > > compiling RPMs under various new operating systems, and it breaks the > > > bility to run "rpmbuild" on a Fedora 31 SRPM. > > > > > > Whether I consider zstd to be an extraneous and entirely unnecessary > > > optimization, it's in place. There are support problems of CentOS > > > taking on supporting an enhanced RPM software to resolve this. Is > > > there any interest in taking this on for centosplus? > > > > Feel free to make a case for Red Hat to backport support for zstd to > > RHEL 7. They've done it in the past when Fedora introduced the switch > > to xz (RHEL didn't have it at the time either!). RPM in RHEL 8.2 will > > have zstd support. If you have a Red Hat customer account, feel free > > to make a case for it to be made available as a z-stream update to > > 8.1. > > I'd be happy with having it in RHEL 8.2 and CentOS 8.2. I'm somewhat > skeptical about a projected release date for this feature, since this > would touch RPM, which is in the new and suppossedly hyperstable > "BaseOS" channel. > Adding functionality is always easy. It's removing stuff that's hard. > I've tried to report it as a feature request with my Red Hat Linux > Server license. As it seems to turn out, their main web page customer > support page doesn't have any apparent links to to the Bugzilla, it > just accepts described problems to try and guess, in this case > irrelevantly, about what Wiki might have information. But the Bugzilla > is still available, I submitted it at > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1768147 That's essentially a dupe of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1715799 -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth!